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Title: Deserters
Post by: Joy123 on Monday 10 October 11 13:03 BST (UK)

Hi, does anyone know where I can find more details on an army deserter in 1916 please? he didn't get shot but I'm sure he must have been punished

thanks

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: DeeBoneham on Monday 10 October 11 14:30 BST (UK)

Might be worth looking for his service record if you are happy to put more information on here.  There is a lovely commemoration at the National Memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire to those who did get shot if you are ever anywhere near there.

Dee  :)

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: Buzancy18 on Monday 10 October 11 23:01 BST (UK)

you need Gerard Oram's book on the 3000 + death sentences passed in WW1. If you want to give the surname I'll have a look.
Buzancy18

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 11 October 11 11:26 BST (UK)

Quote from: Joy123 on Monday 10 October 11 13:03 BST (UK)

Hi, does anyone know where I can find more details on an army deserter in 1916 please? he didn't get shot but I'm sure he must have been punished

thanks

Only if he was captured or gave himself up before the eventual amnesty.

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: forester on Tuesday 11 October 11 18:23 BST (UK)

Do you know how long he deserted for?
It wasn't unusual to end up back in the army etc.

Phil

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: Joy123 on Tuesday 11 October 11 18:56 BST (UK)

hi, and thanks for replying, another forum told me about the desertion, I now want to see if he re-enlisted.

His name was Henry Mcleod Irvine born liverpool 1886

He enlisted in the Navy in 1904 and was thrown out in 1908 for jumping ship a few times, (I downloaded this from national archives)

In 1915 he joined the Inniskillin Fusiliers under the name Henry Irving, (his brother had joined them first), I was told by another forum he deserted 2 months later and never went to war.

BTW...I have ancestry but really dont understand the military information

My problem is his family say served abroad in the cavalry in WW1, and there was a picture of him in uniform on a horse, they are searching for this picture, it has not been seen for years, I know if I had this you could tell me the regiment..

I dont know how to move forward with the cavalry records, as he would have to change his name again I would think, but am sure it would have been a close match to his real name..

I really need your help guys

Joyce

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: Buzancy18 on Tuesday 11 October 11 23:56 BST (UK)

Only listing is a W IRVING who got 1 year hard labour for ' sleeping at post'

Buzancy18

Title: Re: Deserters
Post by: Joy123 on Wednesday 12 October 11 16:33 BST (UK)

Only listing is a W IRVING who got 1 year hard labour for ' sleeping at post'

Buzancy18

Not sure what your telling me Buzancy18, was this W Irving in the cavalry? can you give me a link to this info please

Joyce