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Title: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Tuesday 22 March 11 17:04 GMT (UK)

I asked Irish Genealogy ie about additions to their website here is a progress update:-

"Thank you for your enquiry

The current position in relation to the addition of new records is:

Cork- Work has just been completed on the remaining records from Cork &
Ross Roman Catholic records except for further records from Cork City which
have been completed by Cork County Library.

Dublin - Work is ongoing in completing the remaining Dublin City Roman
Catholic records, a completion date of May 2011 is now likely for these.

Monaghan- Work is ongoing for a set of Roman Catholic records for the
county. These are due for completion in the next few weeks.

Overall- No firm date has been set for the addition of further records
yet, but we will provide a further update on the website soon. Apologies
for the delay in the addition of this extra data to the website."

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: agho on Tuesday 22 March 11 19:46 GMT (UK)

I made a similar request about the remaining Cork records recently & was told they were "in negotiation" with Cork county library about the records they have computerised. As far as I know this includes St Patrick's, North Cathedral, Glanmire & Glounthaune (& possibly others). It could be a while yet before we see any updates on the site unfortunately.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: DarrenO on Tuesday 22 March 11 21:54 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the info means I don't have to keep checking until May time.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Bhoy on Wednesday 23 March 11 13:44 GMT (UK)

Quote

Monaghan- Work is ongoing for a set of Roman Catholic records for the county. These are due for completion in the next few weeks.

Oh, yes please.

Thanks for posting this.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 30 March 11 17:45 BST (UK)

Website update:-

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/about/aboutprogress.html

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: marysma on Wednesday 30 March 11 21:09 BST (UK)

Hi,

eagerly awaiting the RC C&R records.

Thanks for posting.

Marysma

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 30 March 11 21:43 BST (UK)

Me too. Holland ancestors from County Cork to Liverpool 1870s.

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Wicklow Rose on Friday 01 April 11 15:58 BST (UK)

Latest update now on website has amended the May date for Dublin's release to June.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 17 June 11 12:38 BST (UK)

The current position on the addition of new records:-

Cork - Work has just been completed on the computerisation of the remaining
records from Cork & Ross Roman Catholic records except for further records
from Cork City which have been completed by Cork County Library. These
records (except Cork City) are due to be added to the website in due
course.

Dublin - Work is ongoing in completing the remaining Dublin City Roman
Catholic records, a completion date of June 2011 is now likely for these.

Monaghan - Work is ongoing for a set of Roman Catholic records for the
county. These are due for completion in the next few weeks.

Overall - No firm date has been set for the addition of further records
yet, but we will provide a further update on the website soon. Apologies
for the delay in the addition of this extra data to the website.

C

Title: new records for Dublin RC any news yet?
Post by: jmol17 on Thursday 23 June 11 20:09 BST (UK)

Does anyone have any idea when the new records are due on the irish genealogy website? it still says June 2011, no update on the website yet.
Thanks
J

Title: Re: new records for Dublin RC any news yet?
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 23 June 11 20:13 BST (UK)

I'd say just keep an eye on the website for any news ... it doesn't have a definite date but rather 'a completion date of June 2011 is now likely....'

I'm sure people will post details when the site is updated.

A good place for IrishGenealogy news like this is John Grenham's weekly column in the Irish Times which is available online - see : Irish Roots (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/magazine/column/index.htm)

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Thursday 23 June 11 23:04 BST (UK)

I check nearly every day and I'm sure other people do the same. Whoever spots the next update first will hopefully post about it on here.

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: jmol17 on Thursday 23 June 11 23:10 BST (UK)

Thanks, yes I check most days too will keep looking, need to find some missing RC baptisms, just hoping they are there after all!
J

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Friday 24 June 11 08:48 BST (UK)

There is a posting on the GSI's Facebook page http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxb/
(http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxb/)that will be of interest to many of us.

Jimmy Deenihan gives an indication that it will be July when the records will be available as well as other interesting tid bits! :-*

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Friday 24 June 11 09:40 BST (UK)

I emailed them the other day and was told it would indeed be July. ;D

Chomping at the bit!

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 24 June 11 12:48 BST (UK)

Quote from: HugoBeauchamp on Friday 24 June 11 08:48 BST (UK)

There is a posting on the GSI's Facebook page http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxb/
(http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxb/)that will be of interest to many of us.

Jimmy Deenihan gives an indication that it will be July when the records will be available as well as other interesting tid bits! :-*

Thanks for this information. Good to read about more images being made available. Surprised to read this comment from someone in authority about records...

"...lost in the fire at the Four Courts in 1916" (sic)

Surely wrong?

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: marysma on Monday 18 July 11 17:37 BST (UK)

Hi all,

latest progress report from irishgenealogy posted today 18th July;

Roman Catholic records of Baptism,Marriage and Burial for Dublin City,County Cork(Diocese of Cork and Ross)and County Monaghan(Diocese of Clogher)including images of the records will be added to the Church Records already available on this web site in September.Further information will be posted closer to the actual launch date,apologies for the delay in the addition of these records to the website.

Roll on September ;D

Marysma

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Monday 18 July 11 17:47 BST (UK)

Hi and thanks for posting.

I have just had a quick look at the 'progress' part at http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/about/aboutprogress.html but the old notice is still there.
Wonder what's happening?

H

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: marysma on Monday 18 July 11 18:10 BST (UK)

Hi,

further updades of progress is posted of the home page today.

I suspect they have not got around to updating the "update" page yet.

Regards.
Marysma

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Monday 18 July 11 18:49 BST (UK)

Thanks Marysma. Here is a link to the message:-

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/news.html

C

Title: Irish Genealogy Update
Post by: gracie23 on Tuesday 19 July 11 02:31 BST (UK)

Not sure if someone posted this yet. I guess we'll have to wait a little longer for the long awaited additions to this wonderful sight! :-[

From irishgenealogy.ie
"Roman Catholic records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial for Dublin City, County Cork (Diocese of Cork and Ross) and County Monaghan (Diocese of Clogher) including images of the records will be added to the Church records already available on this website in September. Further information will be posted closer to the actual launch date, apologies for the delay in the addition of these records to the website.

Posted 18th July 2011"

Deb

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Tuesday 19 July 11 10:28 BST (UK)

Thanks Deb. Been waiting for these records for ages. What a shame they've put the release date back. So disappointed. Ah well, back to strumming my fingers... ::)
Ann

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: agho on Tuesday 19 July 11 11:22 BST (UK)

Thanks for the update. Waiting, not so patiently, for the additions to the Cork records. So disappointing that they keep pushing the date back.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Monday 15 August 11 18:39 BST (UK)

Both irishgenealogy.ie and 1901/1911 census sites down today,
wonder if someone is tinkering with them to add more to the sites
or maybe just maintanence.
Anne

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 15 August 11 18:42 BST (UK)

I spotted that earlier... they both seem to be hosted on the same set of servers. Hopefully an update of some kind.

Could be a hardware or software updates in preparation for the addition of new records. Fingers crossed..

Shane

Title: Irish Genealogy Website.
Post by: Doyley on Wednesday 17 August 11 12:42 BST (UK)

Would anybody know which Dublin City church records are to be added, I'm hoping that Rathmines will be on the list.
Kind regards,
Doyley.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy Website.
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 17 August 11 12:44 BST (UK)

Dont know the specific parishes they are working but the website has stated 'Dublin City' parishes.

Depending on the date Rathmines might have been considered Co. Dublin... as it was outside the City boundary.

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy Website.
Post by: Doyley on Wednesday 17 August 11 12:48 BST (UK)

Thanks Shane,
hopefully it will be in my favour as it would help me immensely.
Kind regards,
Doyley.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: dermo on Wednesday 17 August 11 15:05 BST (UK)

Doyley

If Rathmines is not included, you might consider checking out the records for the parish on microfilm at the National Library. The Rathmines film is very legible and the registers are indexed making it very easy to find people.

Dermot

Title: new records at irish genealogy when?
Post by: jmol17 on Thursday 08 September 11 00:38 BST (UK)

supposed to be September does anyone have any inside info?
No update on website yet
J

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Thursday 08 September 11 19:50 BST (UK)

It's not really following city boundaries as such. It already contains parishes as far out as Bohernabreena which was utterly countryside back then. On the other hand it doesnt contain a major inner city RC parish Dt Paul's Arran Quay which "belongs" to www.rootsireland.ie. At least there's no sign of Rathmines RC on rootsireland

Rathmines Church of Ireland is already on irishgenealogy.ie by the way.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 08 September 11 20:13 BST (UK)

I've a suspicion that IrishGenealogy might leave the St. Paul's records out of the update... no real evidence for this. It's the only city parish RootsIreland seem to have ..

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Thursday 08 September 11 23:07 BST (UK)

I was given some information about a year ago concerning the Dublin RC parish records. The records that were indicated as likely to be included in the next update are............

St Lawrence O'Toole
St Mary's Pro-Cathedral
Fairview
**Aughrim Street
**Cabra

** The records for these two parishes may remain 'in local custody'

H

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Friday 09 September 11 20:24 BST (UK)

I think it's a given that Arran Quay won't be on irishgenealogy. There is no parish anywhere so far that's on both sites. There'd be no point in rootsireland having stuff that's free on irishgenealogy.

I'll be interested though to see what the division is of Monaghan as rootsireland already has some.

Title: Irish genealogy new records
Post by: jmol17 on Friday 16 September 11 18:14 BST (UK)

Update on site now October 4th for new records.
J

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Friday 16 September 11 20:26 BST (UK)

I'm still seeing september on the site for the update?

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: jmol17 on Friday 16 September 11 20:32 BST (UK)

click on read more and it says they will be added on Tuesday Oct 4th.
More waiting !!
J

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Friday 16 September 11 20:40 BST (UK)

I'm just getting an error message when I click on 'read more'. Must be taking far longer than anticipated if they keep pushing the date back like this. Such a shame.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 16 September 11 22:29 BST (UK)

Thanks for letting us know. Here is the link to this message:-

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/news2.html

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 17 September 11 00:25 BST (UK)

Clare Santry's site also relays news of Waterford and Wexford records from rootsireland.ie. See second item
http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Saturday 17 September 11 07:12 BST (UK)

Thank you CGR - fabulous news! Have links to both Monaghan and Cork. ;D

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Saturday 17 September 11 07:15 BST (UK)

Thanks for that link John, very useful. Have bookmarked it. :)

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Saturday 17 September 11 08:04 BST (UK)

~~Must be something 'flakey' going on with the update .............~~

Further update on addition of Church records of Baptism, Marriage and Burial to www.irishgenealogy.ie - 18th July 2011...Read more...

when I click read more the same old September message, of 18th July 2011, comes up.......
It is only by using the link kindly posted by CGR1970 that you get yesterdays update. The problem seems to be that the URL has somehow dropped the figure 2 from http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/news2.html

Hopefully they'll get it sorted.

Oops - Looks like the problem was 'housekeeping' on my PC because after deleting browsing history the update appeared! I have now checked the 'Delete browsing history on exit' box under the General Tab of Internet Options. Hope this might help anyone else who has had this problem.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 17 September 11 12:20 BST (UK)

Thanks to CGR1970 for posting the link to news of the new message
about the update to Irishgenealogy.ie,(seems my old bookmark was
my problem because it was going to a different page on the site).

On another subject about the site,they seem to be having problems with the
feed back facility and have said replies to this are blocked at the moment.I used
'feedback' recently to point out what I see as an error on the site with records for St Nicholas Church Dublin.At the moment there are records for St Nicks' which are listed as Church of Ireland but which vary between being labelled as 'Within the walls' and
'Without the walls'.But 'Without the walls' means(maybe only to me) the St Nicholas of Myra, R.C. Church on Francis street which is not on the site at present so if the records for that are added there could be confusion and suggested using the street names to identify the churches instead.
Anne

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 17 September 11 12:30 BST (UK)

There were two St. Nicholas church of Ireland parishes - Within on Nicholas Street, and Without (with St. Luke) in the Coombe

I agree they should add the street name of the parish church to clarify - especially with prospect of three St. Mary's (1x CofI, 2 x RC).

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 17 September 11 12:54 BST (UK)

I did'nt realise St Lukes on the Coombe was classed as 'without the walls'
(of the city).I always thought they were referring to the C.oI on Nicholas street
and the R..c on Francis street,that maybe explains why many official sites also confuse the two which is why I was uncertain which was correct, thanks Shane.
... And theres more as they say ???,Re; St Paul's R.C. Arran quay,I don't see any evidence that IFHF Rootsireland have these records,could it being confused with St Paul's CoI
in Glenageary?As they don't appear to have any of the inner city parishes,see their map.
yours in total confusion,(as usual)
Anne

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 17 September 11 12:58 BST (UK)

just to add to the confusion there was also a St. Paul's CofI in the city.. on North King Street.

Records for St. Paul's, Arran Quay are included on the RootsIreland / IFHF, so it seems they will probably not be included in the Oct 4th update on IrishGenealogy

Some of the names of the city and county county parishes overlap - e.g. the two St. Mary's.

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 17 September 11 13:35 BST (UK)

Now theres one I had'nt heard of,while I'm familiar with where
the majority of the city churches are and can picture the streets
they are on(comes from being sent walking all over the city
delivering heavy parcels when I was 11 and 12 years old)I find the way they are presented on some sites adds to confusion about the records.Hopefully my
confusion and the correcting replies will help rootschatters less familiar with the city
to find the correct church for their research.In that cause theres one more instance of R.C and Church of Ireland parishes which I know have confused people in the past and these are St Andrews R.C.(Westland Row) and St Andrews CoI(Suffolk street)

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 17 September 11 13:39 BST (UK)

I've posted a list of the Church of Ireland churches and parishes in the City, on the Dublin resources board for reference : link (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=556010.new#new)

A number of the RC Parishes are named after the same saint as the civil/CofI parish - so there's a few overlapping names

and the RC parishes and churches (as of 1850) - here (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,495389.msg3525006.html#msg3525006)

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Taidquest on Saturday 17 September 11 13:44 BST (UK)

Excellent Shane,just noticed from your list there is
one more I should have mentioned.There was also two
St. Audeon's almost together,the second one is R.C.
Anne

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 17 September 11 13:56 BST (UK)

a quick list of the Overlapping City Parish names that I see..

No.	RC Parish	Church of Ireland Parish
1	St. Andrew, Westland Row	St. Andrew, Suffolk St
2	St. Audoen, High Street	St. Audeon, Cornmarket
3	St. Catherine, Meath Street	St. Catherine, Thomas St
4	St. James, James's Street	St. James, James St
5	St. Mary, Marlborough Street	St. Mary, Mary St
6	St. Michan, North Anne Street/Halston St	St. Michan, Church St
7	St. Nicholas (Without), Francis Street	St. Nicholas Without & St. Luke, The Coombe
8	St. Paul, Arran Quay	St. Paul, North King Street

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 17 September 11 16:28 BST (UK)

Anne, while it's not shown on the rootsireland.ie map, St Pauls Arran Quay RC is in the Dublin North part of that site.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: marysma on Saturday 17 September 11 18:49 BST (UK)

Thanks for the update.Just got back from a lovely week in Cornwall (without internet access).

Marysma

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: collech on Saturday 01 October 11 19:51 BST (UK)

registers are now online

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 01 October 11 21:04 BST (UK)

Found a new result for my family in St Marys Pro-Cathedral but the details of the record aren't yet showing when I click on the record. Maybe not all complete until the announced date of Tuesday.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Saturday 01 October 11 21:17 BST (UK)

Hi
Are these the Dublin City RC records that are supposed to be launched on Tuesday next
Have just had a quick look at the site and there has been some changes when you do a search
I am interested in St Michans. There is a new filter that was not there before "date unclear "
I am looking for early 1900's records but they are not there

Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 01 October 11 21:41 BST (UK)

In fact even some records that were there before are currently detached from the summary result record. Looks like they are working on uploading everything including register images before Tuesday.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: johnjensen on Saturday 01 October 11 22:23 BST (UK)

And now that new record I saw has disappeared again. Definitely still work-in-progress.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 02 October 11 10:50 BST (UK)

Quote from: genseacher on Saturday 01 October 11 21:17 BST (UK)

...
I am interested in St Michans. There is a new filter that was not there before "date unclear "
I am looking for early 1900's records but they are not there
...

The records on IrishGenealogy generally cover tp to about 1900, or just after.

for reference here are the Dublin parishes that were added :

Harrington St.
Rathmines
St. Joseph
St. Lawrence
St. Mary's, Donnybrook
St. Mary's, Marlborough St (Pro Cathedral)
St. Nicholas

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Monday 03 October 11 20:12 BST (UK)

Hi
Not very happy if all the dublin city records are up.
I have searched for about 20 relatives 1890's mainly and 2 in 1870's and have found none of them.
Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: agho on Monday 03 October 11 20:26 BST (UK)

very disappointed that no further records for Cork city & outer suburbs have been added. Looks like they didn't come to an agreement with Cork County Library to upload the records the Cork Ancestral Project had previously computerised.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: jmol17 on Monday 03 October 11 21:38 BST (UK)

Some of the records have the latin name eg, Richard is Ricardus, John Johannes and catherine was catherina etc. I have found some latin and some with ordinary names. Hope that helps.
J

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: dermo on Monday 03 October 11 22:47 BST (UK)

Since tomorrow is the official launch date for the new records maybe we should suspend judgement for a while. However, I tried checking some records I had already found in the microfilms at the NLI and the quality of the transcription leaves a lot to be desired. In one marriage record, Gt. Britain St comes out as Gt. Belani St while Kevin St is rendered Kerin St.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Monday 03 October 11 23:45 BST (UK)

Ok will not judge yet till tomorrow but the surname I am researching, the total number of records
at the moment is 4791 includes baptism, marriage and death records both RC and COI.
Hopefully that will increase by tomorrow.

Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Tuesday 04 October 11 19:32 BST (UK)

So disappointed !!! Found none of my relatives. Are there some RC records for Dublin City missing. Years I am looking for 1890's mainly, some 1870's and have a few early 1900's - 01

Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 04 October 11 19:36 BST (UK)

Quote from: genseacher on Tuesday 04 October 11 19:32 BST (UK)

....
Found none of my relatives. Are there some RC records for Dublin City missing. Years I am looking for 1890's mainly, some 1870's and have a few early 1900's - 01
.....

which part of the city are you searching ?
One of the large Dublin city parishes, St. Paul's, is not included on the IrishGenealogy website - only available on the pay-website of RootsIreland

Most of the records on IrishGenealogy cover up to about 1900

Have you found any addresses for your ancestors on Civil certs or census returns ?

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Tuesday 04 October 11 20:36 BST (UK)

Shane thanks very much for replying as normal you are so helpful
Looking for 1890's . These are the addresses

74.2 Chancery Street (Inns Quay)
1.5 Chancery Street (Inns Quay)
133.6 Thomas Street (Ushers Quay)
21.2 Greek Street (Inns Quay)
36.2 Marys Lane (Aran Quay)

Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 04 October 11 20:45 BST (UK)

Quote from: genseacher on Tuesday 04 October 11 20:36 BST (UK)

..
74.2 Chancery Street (Inns Quay)
1.5 Chancery Street (Inns Quay)
133.6 Thomas Street (Ushers Quay)
21.2 Greek Street (Inns Quay)
36.2 Marys Lane (Aran Quay)
...

Most of the area around Inn's Quay and Arran quay would be St. Paul's - so not included on IrishGenealogy.

What are the names (and dates) of the family you are looking for in Thomas St ?

Updated : whould it be this Whelan household by any chance ?
Whelan - 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Ushers_Quay/Thomas_Street/1303368/) and Whelan - 1911 (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Usher_s_Quay/Emerald_Square/59588/)
What details are you looking for ?
The parents Michael and Anne seem to have been born in Co. Carlow - all the children in Dublin City.

p.s. do you know Anne's maiden name ?

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: DaveCol on Tuesday 04 October 11 22:59 BST (UK)

I was searching for 4 people, all Dublin City and could not find them.
Eventually I found one had an abbreviated name (Thos instead of Thomas), one shows up only with first and second names and two are in Latin.
There also seems to be discrepancies between the original register and the information shown on the website

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Wednesday 05 October 11 00:46 BST (UK)

Shane
yes that is one of the families i am researching
none of the relatives births are showing up
Anne's maiden name is Dwyer
Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: marysma on Wednesday 05 October 11 16:17 BST (UK)

Quote from: genseacher on Tuesday 04 October 11 19:32 BST (UK)

So disappointed !!! Found none of my relatives. Are there some RC records for Dublin City missing. Years I am looking for 1890's mainly, some 1870's and have a few early 1900's - 01

Regards
Genseacher

Disappointment for me also :(.Can't find any of the names that I am researching.

MM

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Wednesday 05 October 11 16:49 BST (UK)

Me either :'(

Would love to know how many parishes there were in Cork, how many are available, and what's left, so I can at least try to narrow mine down to an area.

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: HugoBeauchamp on Wednesday 05 October 11 17:02 BST (UK)

As far as the Parishes that have been indexed/transcribed and periods covered is concerned, the file showing this is the one dated 18th August 2010 - here http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fdw/

Hopefully it will be updated soon to reflect the current situation.

H

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 05 October 11 17:40 BST (UK)

IrishGenealogy has details for about 46 Cork parishes, all in the Diocese of Cork and Ross, and the south west of the county. They dont appear to have any coverage for the parishes to the east of the county, or in the Diocese of Cloyne.

There are about 103 RC parishes in the Cork City and county in total. (some of the parishes are partially in other counties)

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: frostyknight on Wednesday 05 October 11 22:07 BST (UK)

Hi Shane. Is St Paul's the only Dublin city parish which is not on the Irish Genealogy site? Frostyknight

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 05 October 11 22:55 BST (UK)

Quote from: frostyknight on Wednesday 05 October 11 22:07 BST (UK)

Hi Shane. Is St Paul's the only Dublin city parish which is not on the Irish Genealogy site? Frostyknight

it depends a little bit on the dates... but for the years before civil registration, all the city parishes except St. Paul's are included.

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: frostyknight on Thursday 06 October 11 00:10 BST (UK)

Thanks for the quick reply Shane. :) I've found lots of info since the parish registers came on line, there's a couple of 'missing' people that I haven't located yet.
Frostyknight

Title: New Dublin Catholic Records on irishgenealogy.ie
Post by: RichardK on Friday 07 October 11 12:25 BST (UK)

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
Irish Genealogy has just enlarged its collection substantially with Catholic records from Dublin City and County Cork, including images of the original records in many instances.

Already broken a couple of long-standing brick walls.
R

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Friday 07 October 11 12:50 BST (UK)

Crushing disappointment here too after such a long wait :(

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: DarrenO on Friday 07 October 11 23:13 BST (UK)

While I would have loved for my brickwalls to have crumbled, initial disappointment has been replaced with renewed enthusiasm for the hunt and further names to look at in helping me on my road of discovery.

Keep hunting guys, all the effort will be worth it

Regards
Darren

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Saturday 08 October 11 01:40 BST (UK)

I'm giving up on my County Cork lot they are permanently in the hopeless cases category with "no county Kelly".

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: DudleyWinchurch on Sunday 09 October 11 08:03 BST (UK)

Sorry to hear that so many have been so disappointed.

I've gradually found more and more over the last few days, using a variety of search techniques - now upwards of fifty new records.

The new search method is helping.

A few points that I've found:
The separate first and family names boxes helps to find those with middle names, both as the "known" first name and where they intervened to block results from a full name search in the old box.

If you have few or no results but have an address from another (BMD?) record then you can run the address. I've found just running the number and a main name from the address is usually best as prefixes such as Saint, Upper, Lower, Little, and Street or Road, etc. may or may not be abbreviated. If it's a short street and/or you are looking for early dates (say pre-1850s) then you may need to do the search without the street number.

When running family names with prefixes, try without the prefix. When you find one with a mother's maiden name, then try the family names as a pair (there is an extra box for this). Mostly only useful for catholic records (but have discovered many more catholic records than expected, even mixed in one family and one child baptised both CoI and RC).

If searching on first names then remember, the more unusual the first name the more likely that it will not have undergone latinization in the catholic records - also, as catholic records give (up to two) godparents=sponsors, then these unusual names may help identify other family records. Also if ther are two sponsors/godparents, one will be male and the other (usually the second) will be female, so a surprise George, in my case is obviously the Georgina.

Also the latinization varies from register to register (and possible according to the priest who fills it in). Technically the parties marry each other, so male and female names should both be subject form for the bride and groom, but some of the less detailed registers are listed as male (subject form) female (object form) = he marries her. Parents are a different form (genitive? meaning "of him" or "of her" so the endings will be different. Also the latinization may be generic common forms, Maria for Mary, May and Maria and Anna for Ann, Anne, Hannah, or may just be endings added so that Hannah becomes Hanna, Hannam and Hannae etc. which is why the best results seem to come up if first name searches can be avoided.

Family names are also very variable, sometimes within the same record, so try any variations that you've found elsewhere.

Good Luck!

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 09 October 11 09:35 BST (UK)

In addition to the useful tips in the previous post - two other items that are worth trying :

Try wild cards for searches - e.g. try c*nl*n or c*nl?n instead of Conlon, as this search will also include variations like Conlen Conlan, Connlen etc Use * to indicate multiple characters, or ? for a single characters

For marriages or RC baptisms try a combination of the bride and grooms surnames, or parents surnames in the surname and additional name boxes. You can use wildcards in both if required.

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: DudleyWinchurch on Sunday 09 October 11 10:31 BST (UK)

Shane that's brilliant.

I hadn't spotted that wild-cards would work. It also helps where the names have been "latinized" rather than translated, as you can use a wild-card to cover a variety of endings.

I've already found one more record this morning.

thanks,
Sheila

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: genseacher on Wednesday 02 November 11 23:07 GMT (UK)

Shane
Meant to say thank you for your post on 1st Oct
Have ordered certs hopefully I will get more info
Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Dooley on Saturday 10 December 11 00:39 GMT (UK)

Still waiting for Co Monaghan records to go online.

Irishgenealogy.com still has not added the Monaghan records which were promised for October and hasn't provided any updates as to when they would be available.

They don't seem to respond to email inquiries either.

Very disappointing!

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Wicklow Rose on Friday 23 December 11 08:53 GMT (UK)

Despite the lack of published update, the Monaghan records have not been overlooked. My understanding, via the Dept of AHG, is that the records will be added in early 2012.

Rose

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Ringoroses on Saturday 24 December 11 16:42 GMT (UK)

Hope so! 8)

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 01 February 12 20:03 GMT (UK)

Does anyone know if some Cork City records have been left out of the uploads and also is "South Parish" part of Cork City?

Thanks,

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 01 February 12 21:59 GMT (UK)

It looks like Cork City was excluded:-

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/about/aboutprogress.html

C

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 01 February 12 22:02 GMT (UK)

as far as I remember South Parish is part of Cork City - but dont remember the alternate name for it. It has been mentioned in one of the Cork posts.

SS. Peter and Paul is also a city parish

Shane

Title: Re: Irish Genealogy ie
Post by: Blue70 on Wednesday 01 February 12 22:48 GMT (UK)

I think a lot of Cork City must have been left off it would explain why I can't find my people on Irish Genealogy ie or follow up a possible lead I had for a family with one baptism in South Parish and nothing else before or afterwards.

C

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