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Title: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Gen List Lass on Friday 07 October 11 06:27 BST (UK)
Hi

I've found loads of old books and directories online and free to download. All very useful for genealogy.

Great resource but ease of reading is not one of their strong points.

Anyone have any tips to make them easier to read and No, I don't have a Kindle (yet!)

Gen in NBL England

Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Nick29 on Friday 07 October 11 08:21 BST (UK)
If you Google for ebook reader software you will find a lot listed, including many free applications  :)

You don't need a Kindle to read ebooks - there's even a PC application to read Kindle ebooks.  Having said that, I wouldn't like to part with my Kindle  ;)
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: macbeth on Friday 07 October 11 09:30 BST (UK)
I use Calibre ebook organiser, which has a reader, among other things (google "Calibre ebook"), though the kindle software for PCs isn't bad, either.
I agreed with Nick29. I am totally won over by my Kindle
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Billyblue on Friday 07 October 11 14:51 BST (UK)
Gen
If you are referring to the directories, parish records etc. on www.archive.org, you don't need a special reader.
You can either:
download the file as a .pdf which takes ages because they are usually quite big, but it is then easier to read and search through etc.;  or
read it online, which can get a bit tedious waiting for each page to show, and the OCR gives some strange results when you put in a search word - it shows on the page as a highlight but on the line above or below the line the word is actually on.

Dawn M
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: sstarr2008 on Friday 07 October 11 18:52 BST (UK)
I'm sticking with either reading them online or downloading the pdf.'s and reading those with Foxit reader.

I find that all the other readers tend to use OCR to turn the books into text which causes all sorts of errors, especially with genealogy books which are full of lists of names, use latin phrases and have archaic spellings.

The only exception is the text only files which, although they may be full of errors are much easier to search than pdf.'s which, especially the ones on Google, are not always searchable.

Stu
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Redroger on Friday 07 October 11 20:05 BST (UK)
Agreed Foxit is the best way to read old books. Regarding Kindle, I downloaded the Amazon Free Kindle app for my Android phone, and frankly I have been very impressed with the quality of the text on the phone screen. To the extent that I don't see a Kindle as being needed if you have a compatible smart phone.
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Braindead on Friday 07 October 11 22:44 BST (UK)
I have a smart phone and use the Aldiko app as an ebook reader. I aso have the Kindle app, but I find Aldiko much easier to use. It is a different format of ebooks though.
The only problem with a smart phone is the size of a screen, especially for using as a pdf reader. I haven't come across any gadget better than a computer for reading pdfs yet.
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Gen List Lass on Saturday 08 October 11 07:37 BST (UK)
Interesting range of replies...

I don't have a Kindle or Smartphone, I download the ebooks to my notebook PC.

The problem I have is actually reading the downloads. I wear varifocals and find by the time I have read to the end of each line, I have lost my place for the beginning of the next line.

I can get around this by changing the text into Word and making shorter columns but this seems a little long winded.

I've just been speaking to someone who prints out his ebooks and his book binder wife, binds them nicely for him to read. Lucky man!

Gen in NBL England
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Calverley Lad on Saturday 08 October 11 08:23 BST (UK)
If your problem is just an eyesight thing, (I have the same problem) I got some cheap reading specs which I only use for the computer.
 Brian
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Nick29 on Saturday 08 October 11 10:55 BST (UK)
Agreed Foxit is the best way to read old books. Regarding Kindle, I downloaded the Amazon Free Kindle app for my Android phone, and frankly I have been very impressed with the quality of the text on the phone screen. To the extent that I don't see a Kindle as being needed if you have a compatible smart phone.

Ahh, but (1) my smart phone's battery gives up the ghost after about an hour's reading (OK, it might be two), and (2) I can't read my smart phone's screen in broad daylight (like in the garden, or on the beach).  My Kindle's battery lasts about a month, or two weeks if I use the little light in the leather carrying case (the Kindle screen is not back-lit - it's 'electronic ink', and looks just like print on white paper).

Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: roopat on Saturday 08 October 11 17:36 BST (UK)
Have borrowed my daughter's Kindle a few times - I really want one for myself but they're still a bit expensive, especially buying the books compared to the big pile I get free from the library each week! But the Kindle is SO easy to read, and very light and comfortable to hold lying down in bed, which is a big consideration when your hands are not as supple as they used to be  :(
Must be great to take on holiday with all those books stored in one small 'volume' - I've just packed 9 in the caravan for forthcoming hol, good job we're not flying somewhere  ;D

The only drawback I found was sometimes when I'm reading fast, I need to go back a few pages to check something I seem to have misunderstood ...with the Kindle you can't do that!

It's on my Christmas list!

Pat
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 08 October 11 19:39 BST (UK)
I should keep a lookout, in this economic climate any company can go broke and there may be bargains to be had.
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Nick29 on Saturday 08 October 11 23:41 BST (UK)


The only drawback I found was sometimes when I'm reading fast, I need to go back a few pages to check something I seem to have misunderstood ...with the Kindle you can't do that!



Yes you can..... just use the 'Page Back' button  ???

What I like about the Kindle is that I can put a cursor to the left of a word, and I get an instant dictionary definition.  8)

Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: jc26red on Sunday 09 October 11 21:18 BST (UK)
With the Ipad Kindle app, you only have to swipe your finger right to left to go back a page and it really does give the feel of turning pages.. same with going forward, you can start to turn just as you're finishing the last paragraph in the same way you would a real book.

So far it's not costing me a great deal as A*****on has some good deals on ebooks, pennies in fact  ;D  I've packed a good few books for my next trip abroad, something that I don't like doing normally because of the weight. No problem with the ipad for long journeys with the 10 hour battery life when in full use.

Are there any good ebooks that others have read and can recommend?
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 09 October 11 23:09 BST (UK)
I've been reading biographies from Alan Sugar and the Dragons from Dragon's den.  I think Theo Paphitis' book was the most entertaining, and James Caan's the most surprising.
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: roopat on Monday 10 October 11 20:25 BST (UK)
Good to hear all these positives! I love gadgets, the Ipad looks great but now they're talking about a Kindle Live (hope that's the right name) which is supposed to be similar - maybe I'll wait for that. (or a win on the lottery  ::))

Pat
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: panda40 on Monday 10 October 11 20:40 BST (UK)
On the Amazon Kindle store is 100 free books that are updated hourly. People put their recommendations as to how good they are. You can view these books in sub categories, eg romance, autobiography etc. Often a book will come out for free to test the market before being released at a cost price. I treated myself to a kindle plus a cover with light which was expensive. I use this for when I go camping less space used. I can read in the dark. so far I got about 100 books and paid for about 5 of them. I check about every other day to see if there are any book I would like to download.
Best investment I have made in a long time.
panda
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 11 October 11 10:11 BST (UK)
I must admit to being impressed by the legibility of Kindl;e even on a smart phone app. Whether I shall graduate to a full Kindle is unknown, it would depend on what is available in my interest fields.
Title: Re: ebooks - how do you use them?
Post by: Nick29 on Tuesday 11 October 11 23:07 BST (UK)
I've just finished reading a couple of books on Kindle by David Baboulene about life in the merchant navy in the 1970's.  Very funny, but not for the faint hearted.