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Title: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Stephen123 on Wednesday 05 October 11 01:08 BST (UK)
Hi I need help with the handwriting on this old document please?
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Ronin56 on Wednesday 05 October 11 01:24 BST (UK)
Here's my two pennorth....

Married in the .... at Coula????

According to: the rites of the Presbyterian Church

James Anderson & Sophy Tindell. Her mark is witnessed by the Registrar or Officiating Minister, Simpson Millar. Witnesses are
William and Sarah.... Maker? Certainly the same surname.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 05 October 11 01:28 BST (UK)
Hi agree with all of that, but could the witnesses have the surname USHER?

Do not know what the first line means though!

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 October 11 02:27 BST (UK)
WILLIAM and SARAH SLATER.


Sue
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Emmeline on Wednesday 05 October 11 02:37 BST (UK)
I think it could be William & Sarah Marler.......
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 05 October 11 02:55 BST (UK)
If you look closely I think some of the first line has been crossed out

Married in the     at Coula  or Coura

Do we know what country this was in?

Linda
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: ennael on Wednesday 05 October 11 03:09 BST (UK)
Cowra, NSW , Australia.
stephen123 currently has this request running on the Australian board.
Sophy has signed with her mark.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558163.msg4108680.html#msg4108680

Leanne
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: majm on Wednesday 05 October 11 07:53 BST (UK)
Yes, marriage at Cowra  (it is in the Central West region of New South Wales, Australia)

I have asked Stephen to post this snip, so that we can help determine the names of the witnesses to the marriage.  So that in turn I can help follow up on the witnesses to see if they were family/friends of the families of the bride or groom.    I have some off line resources for that particular area of NSW in that era.   The snip is all in the handwriting of the Rev'd or his clerk, and is based on a summary of the transmitted record forwarded to the HO of the NSW BDM Registrar General's office in Sydney. 

I am particularly  interested in the surname/s of the witnesses ...  my resources are hardcopy and by surname, and I can read that the witnesses were William (someone) and Sarah (someone) .... I think their surnames are the same as each other, BUT as to what the initial letter is ....  Ummm....  I am at a loss on that .....   Most likely it is "M" as in the Rev'd was Simpson MILLER ...

Cheers,  JM 

Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 05 October 11 08:18 BST (UK)
Hi

A bit late - I read the surname of the two witnesses as Maker


gnu
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: majm on Wednesday 05 October 11 08:35 BST (UK)
Thanks gnu,  I think I have some with that surname in that area at that time  ;D   I am sure I can see the "M" at the beginning and the "er" at the end of the surname ...

Do you read the two surnames the same as each other?  (I do, but then that's just my own view) ... 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: majm on Wednesday 05 October 11 08:40 BST (UK)
OK,  some further questions

Is the surname MAKEN or MAKER (I have one of each, both are William  :) on my off line resources  ::) ::)  ::) )

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 05 October 11 08:44 BST (UK)
Both surnames the same - Maker from what I see - cf. the n in Anderson.


gnu
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: bearkat on Wednesday 05 October 11 09:10 BST (UK)
Could it Be MARTEN?

The vicar does not cross his t but does dot his i in Presbyterian.
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 05 October 11 09:15 BST (UK)
Could it Be MARTEN?

The vicar does not cross his t but does dot his i in Presbyterian.

I see most of the ts crossed - e.g. Witness, at,  the rites


gnu
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Ronin56 on Wednesday 05 October 11 10:55 BST (UK)
OK,  some further questions

Is the surname MAKEN or MAKER (I have one of each, both are William  :) on my off line resources  ::) ::)  ::) )

Cheers,  JM

Maker for me - look at the M and the r in Millar.
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: majm on Wednesday 05 October 11 11:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Ronin56,

I have run with the MAKER surname and found a glimmer of a possibility of a connection between a chap surnamed MAKER and the groom (surnamed ANDERSON), but a better glimmer of a possibility with the bride (nee TINDLE/TINDELL/TINDALL) fingers crossed I am not mis-leading Stephen (the OP).

PS, on the NSW BDM marriage certificates from that era (1890's) the printed "Married in the" is often partly struck through by clergy so that it is meant to read "Married at Cowra" with the "in the" being made redundant by the striking though of those two words. 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: lisamarler70 on Saturday 10 August 13 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi I need help with the handwriting on this old document please?

I took a look at your document and deciphered it as William and Sarah Marler.  I wonder if you had any luck in finding out more information - was it indeed Maker?

Can I ask the date of the documents and where the marriage took place as some of my relatives were both Sarah and William Marler (married).

Thanks

Lisa
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: Billyblue on Sunday 11 August 13 03:13 BST (UK)
The surname looks like Maker but I wonder if it's supposed to be Maher?

Definitely doesn't start with S - his capital S has a long tail on it.

Dawn M
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: majm on Tuesday 13 August 13 04:43 BST (UK)
Hi I need help with the handwriting on this old document please?

I took a look at your document and deciphered it as William and Sarah Marler.  I wonder if you had any luck in finding out more information - was it indeed Maker?

Can I ask the date of the documents and where the marriage took place as some of my relatives were both Sarah and William Marler (married).

Thanks

Lisa

Hi Lisa,

The marriage took place at the Presbyterian Church, in Cowra which is a town in the Central West of New South Wales, Australia. 

Stephen123 last posted at RChat on 24 March 2013.   Perhaps if you send a PM to Stephen he will be able to answer your question in more detail.   

In the meanwhile, may I ask .... When and where were your Sarah and William alive?

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Can anyone read this please?
Post by: HannahB on Sunday 18 August 13 10:03 BST (UK)
I see it clearly as MASTER.  Both the same name.  Hannah