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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: beechtree on Tuesday 04 October 11 16:15 BST (UK)
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I am searching for the parents of William Hopkinson reportedly from Brackenfield c 1800. He married Maria Harrison in St Peters Derby in 1828. Among the witnesses were William Hopkin and another Hopkinson signature that is not easy to read. On the 1841 census William is an ag lab and in 1851 a brewer in Liversage Street Derby. There are many choices of Williams born around 1800. Please can some one help me find the right one . Thank you
(I have just posted the same message on the begginers board before I found this Derby link, please forgive me- this is my 1st time !)
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Hi Beechtree
Welcome to Rootschat
My Hopkinson family are also from Brackenfield. Do you have Williams death/ burial ? I am away on holiday at the moment so don't have access to my records, but will get back to you when I get home.
Carol
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Hi Carol,
Sorry for the delay...I have been away too!
Wllm Hopkinson died on 21st July 1852 in Derby and was buried on the 25th.
Regards
Beechtree
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Hi Beechtree
I have checked my records and your William doesn't appear in my tree.
I have a note of a baptism for a William 8 April 1798 to William & Ann of Morton. Brackenfield is in the parish of Morton. Do you have his age at death and does it fit?
Carol
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Hi Carol
Thanks for your reply. The 1798 Morton entry was one of my choices. Wllm was 52 when he died, making his birth 1800 but ages are never very specific. But I needed to eliminate the other possibilities before settling for a date that was 2 years out!
Brackenfield didn't have a church to register baptisms at that time so Wllm could easily have been baptised in any of the following places (although Morton should have been the one)
5 May 1799 Ashover to Wllm and Elizabeth
4 May 1799 St Peter's Derby to Wllm and Elizabeth
7 Aug 1799 Shirland to Wllm and Mary
18 May 1800 North Wingfield to Wllm and Jane
The difficult signature on the wedding entry for Wllm in 1828 could have been JANE Hopkinson. But when I went to Derby RO her sig on other documents was different .(However there was a considerable time lapse between them )
I was hoping that other Roots Chat members would be able to eliminate some of my choices so that I could settle for the correct one!! I really want to know what happened to the 1800 North Wingfield William.
I found difficulty tracing Wllm and Ann of Morton on the 1841 Census
Regards
Beechtree
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Hi again
A little more information that may help.
William Hopkinson was buried 21 July 1829 at Morton aged 63. Administration papers state he was a labourer of Morton and a widower.
also mentioned was his son Samuel, farmer of Brackenfield, Thomas Hadfield of Shirland & John Doe, Gentleman.
The baptism entry for William to William & Jane gives their abode as Pilsley.
The entry for William to William & Elizabeth gives abode as Prass, Ashover.
There is also this entry in the North Wingfield records -
William baptised 22.8. 1800 to Thomas & Mary abode Clay Cross
Carol
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Hi Carol
Thanks for the information.
Regards
Beechtree
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I believe that Robert Hopkinson born to Robert & Mary Hopkinson in North Wingfield in 1740 might be my ancestor who moved to Lambeth & became a Lighterman. Does anyone know about this Derbyshire family>
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Hi Somerville66
I have his baptism as 13.1. 1741 abode Woodthorpe, North Wingfield. His parents I believe were Robert & Mary (nee Kittchen) who married in 1726.
There are two Robert's buried in Northwingfield with the abode Woodthorpe. One in 1758 and the other in 1767. There are no ages given so I can't say if one of them is the 1741 Robert.
What makes you think he moved to Lambeth?
Carol
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Hi Beechtree
I'm afraid I don't know what happened to William Hopkinson bpt 18/5/1800 N Wingfield, but his family is
William Hopkinson bpt 14/2/1775 N Wingfield mar Jane Ashby 12/5/1794 N Wingfield
children
Mary bpt 4/10/1795
Elizabeth bpt 18/5/1797
William bpt 18/5/1800
Ann bpt 23/1/1803
Joseph bpt 27/3/1808
Sarah bpt 22/11/1812
Martha bpt 9/3/1817
William bur 6/1/1851 will proved at Chesterfield 10/4/1851 farmer of Pilsley will dated 13/12/1850
Valerie
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Hi Sunflower
If as it appears Robert Hopkinson, father & son, died in N Wingfield by 1767 then I can eliminate them. My Robert married and had children in Lambeth where his sons became Lightermen on the Thames but both my family and very distant cousins I have recently met have always said that Robert came from Derbyshire when he married at Stockwell in 1776.
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Hi
There's often a grain of truth in these anecdotes, so just in case there's a clue in there somewhere, what did your Robert call his children? (Matthew would be top favourite!)
Valerie
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Hi Valerie
Matthew is not a name used in my Hopkinson family, who incidentally later dropped the -son and just called themselves Hopkins. The names they used were John, Adam, Martin, William, Elisha and Robert was used in every generation.
Liz
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Hi Liz
How intriguing! I have Adam Hopkinson who married Ann Martin in my tree ...
I will send details when I get home from work.
Fingers crossed
Valerie
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So, what I have in my notes is
Adam Hopkinson bpt 5/11/1701 N Wingfield bur 24/11/1742 N Wingfield son of William and Mary
Ann Martin bpt 25/10/1702 N Wingfield dau of Robert and Elizabeth
Adam and Ann mar 27/10/1725 N Wingfield
children
Thomas 24/4/1726* bpt N Wingfield of Tupton
Ann 22/10/1727 bpt N Wingfield of Tupton
Elizabeth 3/5/1730 bpt N Wingfiled of Tupton
Ann 10/4/1732 bpt N Winfield of Tiptoe
Mary 17/2/1733 bpt N Wingfield of Tupton
Adam 4/4/1736 bpt N Wingfield of Woodthorpe
Robert 18/4/1738 bpt N Wingfield of Woodthorpe
Hannah 21/5/1740 bpt N Wingfield of Woodthorpe
*17/12/1790 Taking an inquisition at Woodthorpe (4 miles) upon Thomas Hopkinson who was accidentally killed in an iron stone pitt £1 3s 0d George Gosling Coroner
Robert Hopkinson 18/4/1738 mar Ann Wright 11/2/1765 N Wingfield
child
Mary 8/11/1767 N Wingfield of Woodthorpe
I have this Robert as the one bur 11/9/1767 N Wingfield of Woodthorpe??????
Thoughts anyone
Valerie
Mary 8/11/1767 bpt N Wingfield of Woodthorpe