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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: alice09 on Saturday 01 October 11 18:14 BST (UK)
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Hi I'm new. wonder if anyone can help me with tracing my g/mother.
She disappears off the radar in 1888 after the birth of her 6th child.
I think i may have found her on the 1911 cen. as being in Bethnel Green asylum. Does any one know how or if I can trace her medical records and where she was from 1888 to 1911.
Thank You.
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Hello and welcome.
Maybe you could give us some more details - things like name, age, place of birth, husband and children and then we could help you to find her in 1891/1901.
Jen :)
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Thank You.
Her name was Esther Hutton (nee Hum/Humn/Humm) Colchester 1854-1932. Husband John 1852-1936. Children: Fred, Basil, Stanley (RIP aged 2), Emily, Olive, Maud, Ernest. Thought I had traced her to Stone Hosp. Dartford but when enquired at The Nat. Archives it wasnt her.
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Is it just Esther you can't find in 1891 and 1901 or are the whole family missing? As she appears to be in Bethlem Green Asylum in 1911, I wonder if she was in a hospital for those censuses and only recorded under her initials?
Jan
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There is a possible entry for her in 1891, in Essex County Lunatic Asylum.
Listed as EH, female, age 37, married, born Colchester.
RG12/1382/159/27
Jen
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Are the children with their grandparents, John and Martha in 1891?
RG12 Piece: 1415 Folio: 42 Page: 15
Maldon Road, Birch
Good find Jen, perhaps she suffered from some sort of illness after the birth of Ernest.
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In 1901, there is an E Hutton in Dartford County Asylum. She is described as the wife of a zinc worker. Do you know what John's trade/profession was?
Jen
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He was a carpenter in 1881, Jen.
RG11 Piece: 1793 Folio:12 Page: 18
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Ah - Is the Dartford Asylum the same place as the Stone Hospital? Sorry, I was being dim there.
There are entries under EH again in 1901 but none which fits as well as the 1891 entry.
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Sounds like the same place
http://www.countyasylums.com/mentalasylums/stonehouse01.htm
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Thought I had traced her to Stone Hosp. Dartford but when enquired at The Nat. Archives it wasnt her.
Can you tell us why as that might help narrow down the search. As Jen said it does seem the best fit at the moment.
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In 1891 her husband John ( still a carpenter) and two of the children - Frederick and Basil were lodgers at White Horse, Maldon Road, Birch
RG12 Piece: 1415 Folio: 35 Page: 1
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I'm struggling to find John in 1901?
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So am I. Ernest is still with his grandparents in 1901, suggesting his mother is in an institution somewhere.
Got John in 1911 using the free search - in Birch as a lodger.
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Basil appears to be in the Royal Navy and Fred has disappeared along with his father
Jen
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Yes Basil was in the Navy. John (esther's husband) wasnt very popular in the village after 1888 and took himself off to London to work. He came back and lived (sorry lodged!) with his lady friend and went on to have one known child with her possibly two.
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Sorry, getting back to the asylum, I think at first she must have been put some where near colchester, as i remember my Gran saying that when her mother first went away she kept walking back home to care for the children, so they had to put her further away.
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Hi Alice - why are you sure that isn't her in Dartford in 1901?
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Yes I got the info from National Archives in London....it was a shame that it wasnt her as they have the old records there from stone hospital. I suppose it is possible it was her and they (stone hosp) put down the wrong christian name. I think that is likley as patients were not seem as human beings at that time.
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It could well be that the wrong name was put down, was there any other information eg date or place of birth that might link it to Esther? Was the first name very different?
You can't help but feel sorry for the family can you as she was obviously shut away for a long time. Possibly she was suffering from some sort of post natal depression.
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Letter stated from London Met. Archives says that there were two entries for E. Hutton at stone hosp.
One Elizabeth Hutton of St Pancras admitted 10.04.1899 and still an inmate in 1901, the other was Emily of white chapel who died in 1901.
Letter concludes that Ester was not an inmate of stone house or Bexley asylum prior her admission to the private asylum at bethnal green. There are no surving records of the bethnal green asylum.