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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: woodchurch on Wednesday 28 September 11 16:16 BST (UK)
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I am trying to identify an Elizabeth McCarthy who married William Clarke of Farran at St Annes, Shandon on 14 Feb 1832. A hunch at the moment is she may have been related to James McCarthy of J McCarthy and Sons of Cork and Dublin, Tea, Wine and Spirit Merchants and Whisky Distillers and Rectifiers.
A tobacco merchant in Cork, William Clarke had close connections with the Lumley Perriers also merchants and whisky distillers in Cork, with [thanks Awall!], William's daughter Maria marrying a Lumley Perrier and two intermarraiges in the next generation. Family history says her father was a J McCarthy and that William gave land near his home at Farran for the construction of the present RC church for his wife (there is a notice to this effect in the church).
Pike's Contemporary Biographies 1911 gives details of one Edward Valentine McCarthy of Ardmanagh House, Glenbrook, Cork, son of James McCarthy and the then current MD of the firm.
Can anyone through any light on this whether these are the same McCarthys?
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Hi,
Can't throw any light on the McCarthy connection at the moment.
I do have a photo of Monument of William & Elizabeth Clarke of Farren (spelling!) at their burial place at St Finbarrs Cemetery, Glasheen Road Cork ( not St Finbarrs Cathedral).
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The burial place of William Clarke, Farren, who died 7th February 1884 aged 79 years and Elizabeth his wife who died 6th December 1887 aged 83
There are some more names at the bottom of the monument but couldn't make out the names.
If you look up the Cork Examiner for the marriage date or the Cork Examiner for December 1887 there might be a death notice or obituary for Elizabeth giving details of her father's family.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Mary that's great. When you say there are other names on the memorial, are they eroded or overgrown and need closer access to make them out? Would whoever owns/looks after St Finbarr's Cemetery have records do you think? My research has that William married Elizabeth on 14 February 1832 at St Annes, Shandon. If you have a chance to look into the Cork Examiner for any announcement around then that would be great, many thanks, Martin
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You are welcome.
I am often at St Finbarrs and will bring my tin foil the next time to try and make out the details, failing that I will ask the supervisor there if he could give me the full details of all those buried in that plot.
It is a magnificent memorial.
Will let you know if I come up with any more info.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hi again,
I went to St Finbarrs this morning to have a look at the Clarke monument and see the other names on it.
They are -
In loving memory of
Catherine Lumley Clarke
the wife of Capt. T.A. Clarke
of Farran, Co. Cork
who died 17th June, 1926 aged 54 years
That's it.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Thank you Mary, another gap filled in - interesting (well, slightly interesting!) other records have Katherine LP with a K.
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Catherine Lumley Clarke or Katherine LP as she was = Lumley Perrier
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Transcribed exactly as it is on headstone
Mary
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I did in fact misread the headstone, had another look at it today ( it was raining last time I was there) and I took a photo and it is in fact "K" for
Katherine.
Photo attached
Mary
Celtic liberty
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Hi ,
I know it's a while since this post was active but I found a few items that may be of interest. An advertisement on an old shop in Inchigeelagh ( about 18 miles from 70Farran) and also an aution catalogue from July 1970 which I found recently, for the sale of contents of Clarke's House at Farran. I remember my parents attending this auction.
Mary
Celtic Liberty
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Hi
Shopfront and Clarke's ad to side
Mary
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Auction catalogue 1970,
also note previous photo shop front advertisement " As Gaeilge" ( In Irish) for St. Bruno tobacco made in Dublin
Mary
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Thanks again Mary, the sale catalogue looks interesting, I recently found one for the sale of paintings at Allerton Hall, Liverpool, by the estate of Capt W R Clarke's father Thomas Clarke, in 1926. That catalogue was marked up with initials showing that a lot of the items were bought in by members of the family - any such indications on this one? I've collected a few old Clarke Tobacco signs! Martin
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Hi Martin-Woodchurch!
Had a look at the catalogue, no indications as to initials on cutlery or ware. A few interesting items -
Silhouette - Mr. Appleton 1815
Silhouette - E Wainwright 1832
Oil Paintings - A Quiet Retreat, Surrey F. W. Hulme 1860
- Shepherdess & sheep C. Westerbeck 1900
- Beech Trees in Autumn by J. W. Oakes A.R.A 1853 ( Large oil)
- Dutch Quay Scene by M. Tenkate 1862
Pair of Lithographs of Alleton Hall
Lots of silver items e.g table centre piece 177 ozs
A huge collection of silver cutlery.
Some beautiful bookcases, a rosewood and ormolu mounted escritoire of Louis XV design and lots of other classic items.
There are 35 pages in all, under various categories.
Mary
Celtic Liberty