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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: welshwoman59 on Wednesday 28 September 11 13:27 BST (UK)
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My grandfather James Garnet Carroll was born in London in 1889. I have traced his life as far as 1904 when he left the Ragged School in London (the Arethusa). However, he's disappeared in 1911 along with his mother Catherine Carroll. I have reason to believe he was in the army and it's highly likely he was garrisoned in Ireland. Whether his mother went with him?? His family actually came from County Offally but were estranged. The story was that the family came from Cork (not true) but I wonder whether he was garrisoned there. Can anybody help me please?
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You can check the 1911 Irish census here (free)- soldiers in barracks listed under initials rather than full name.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
To find military records (if they survive) best to post a query on Armed Forces board.
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He has a really early number and i've been told that his record was destroyed in the blitz. He re joined in 1914 and went to war. From there, I have all the info. I just wondered whether it was possible to find him on the 1911 census if he's in the army?
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There are 26 males named J.C. born England in 1911 Irish census- see here (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=c&firstname=j&county=&townland=&ded=&age=32&sex=M&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=England&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=)
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Thank you very much for doing that. It's really good of you. Sorry to be a pest - but - would they not have the full name or was it illegible? My grandfather was a drummer in the army. I guess I'll never get to the bottom of it. It just seems strange they both he and his mother disappear in 1911.
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People in instituations (soldiers in barracks, patients in hospitals and asylums, prisioners in gaol, etc.) were listed on the enumeration forms by their intials according to the census instructions.
Perhaps have a go at searching for the mother and you might find him in the same area.
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I did try, honestly, but couldn't find her either. I thought maybe I wasn't doing it correctly. Thank you very much
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When and where was mother born? You can use 'more search options' on census search to narrow down catagories such as religion, birthplace, etc.
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Her name was Catherine Carroll nee Douglass. She has been known to use Douglass at times!! She was born in 1861 in Kentish Town, London.
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If she was in Ireland in 1911, and it's not yet clear that she was here then, there's only 2 Catherine Carrolls in Ireland born in England once of which is a single shopkeeper age 50-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Tralee_Urban__part_of_/Bridge_Street/291510
Other one is age 52 but married and has family-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4/Castle_Street/578425
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Well, I think that's my answer isn't it? Thank you ever so much for your trouble.
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Well, I think that's my answer isn't it? Thank you ever so much for your trouble.
Only a possibility at this point. I didn't search under the surname Douglass(s), first name Kate, etc.