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Title: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Wednesday 21 September 11 18:45 BST (UK)
I think I have now located where my great great grandmother died and found her burial record for the parish of rainbow Hill  - 1887. The church of St barnabus in that area has no graveyard and the nearest is the Astwood cemetry. I am trying to find out if there is a grave for her and wondered if anyone knows where I can get this info. The Worcester history centre don't have this info and suggested archaeology department somewhere?
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 15 October 11 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi There

Worcester History Centre have the burials for Astwood cemetery on microfilm so if they cant find any record it points to the burial taking place osmewhere else, personally I would have thought it would have been Astwood thats the nearest place to Rainbow Hill - this may interest you I was born at 9 Astwood Rd Worcester so know where both Rainbow Hill & Astwood cemetery are

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Saturday 15 October 11 16:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for reply- my ancestors - the Whitings were at 14 Astwood Road- so just over the road from your birth place!
We have a copy of the burial record but it says that the burial is in the parish of rainbow Hill and no mention of where? The ceremony was performed by the curate of St Nicholas but don't know if that means she was buried there?
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 22 October 11 13:41 BST (UK)
Hi There

We have a problem then as St Nicholas has not been used as a church for a long time - it has been used for diosecen records storage as well as by the record office at one time & I dont know what it is used for now - sorry to be a wet blanket.  If you put this on the Worcester mailing lists & pray that a chap called Gus Tysoe reads it you may well get some very good info then

All the very best

Phil
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: netti on Friday 21 September 12 17:32 BST (UK)
Did you ever get to the bottom of this mystery? I have rediscovered a map of part of Astwood showing where graves are - which I got from the cemetery office many years ago. If your ancestor happens to be on this map I could check if she had a stone?
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Friday 21 September 12 23:51 BST (UK)
Hi- I havent managed to confrim her burial but know she did die in Worcester and I have the correct info. Her name was Jane Matilda whiting aged 60 . Buried 11 November 1887. If you can check for her on your map that would be great!!
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: netti on Saturday 22 September 12 08:56 BST (UK)
Can I just clarify that Worcester History Centre actually checked the Astwood Records for you?  I can't see any Whitings on my map but it only covers a tiny portion of the cemetery.
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 22 September 12 10:41 BST (UK)
Hi Again

Can I clarify something - are you trying to find exactly what part of the cemetery (if the burial took place there) the grave is in, as its a huge place & its a big ask for anyone to walk round it for you.  Have you thought of getting in touch with the cemetery directly as they would be able to tell you if your ancestor is intered there.  I have just come to the end of a 6 week holiday in Worcestershire & have visited the Hive (New record office) 6 times in that period , had I known earlier that you were still in trouble with this I would have had a quick look at all the Worcester parish registers for you - unfortunately I wont be up again until Christmas/New Year so remind me in early  to mid December & I will have a look for you - thats the best I can offer

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Saturday 22 September 12 15:06 BST (UK)
Hi Phil thanks for the reply. i was trying to find out which actual cemetry she is buried in to go and look around as i am really confused as to where it is? I know some places can tell you which plot someone is buried in and I wouldnt expect anyone to walk round for me. The problem was determining which cemetry to walk round and to contact as the records don't make that clear.

netti- I got the burial record from worceter but as I said earlier it says she is buried at rainbow Hill cemetry so i am sort of ging around in circles.

Thanks again  both of you for your help.  :D
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: netti on Saturday 22 September 12 15:23 BST (UK)
Ah sorry - didn't read it properly. Does the burial give a plot number at all? I have a map showing which portion certain plot numbers are in. Cuts down the walking  :)

Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Saturday 22 September 12 16:32 BST (UK)
Sorry no other info apart from date. Still confused- is the rainbow Hill cemetry the same as the Astwood one?
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 29 September 12 12:07 BST (UK)
Hi There

Just to set you straight - there isnt now & never has been a cemetery in Ranbow Hill - the main cemetery is in Astwood road - this road starts at the top of Rainbow hill & runs a long way untill it gets to the cemetery - as I said in a much earlier posting I was born at 9 Astweood road (just past the top of rainbow Hill) which is at the other end of the road to the cemetery

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare 
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Saturday 29 September 12 18:54 BST (UK)
Thanks Phil - I understand now.
Sue :D
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 06 October 12 12:21 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

Tell you what, I shall be going to stay with cousins 10 miles outside Worcester for Christmas/New Year so let me know exactly who you want found in St Barnabus parish or the Astwood Rd Cemetery & I will have a look for you on one of my weekly visits to the Hive (record Office)

All the very best

Phil
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday 10 October 12 23:36 BST (UK)
Hi Sue

Jane Matilda Whiting was buried in consecrated ground on 11 November 1887 at Worcester Cemetery,  Astwood Road, in grave space 25151. The ceremony was performed by the Reverend P Norton. Jane was a widow aged 60, whose death occurred where she resided in Tunnel  Road ?, Claines. 

There is a road called Tunnel Hill off Astwood Road, and that was in Claines parish until 1884, so the address is a bit odd for 1887.

Perhaps Netti can check her cemetery map and let you know where 25151 is.

HTH
Nemo
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: netti on Thursday 11 October 12 07:28 BST (UK)
25151 is in a section of the cemetery called "pit"?! (others have names such as far patch, hearse house & big patch).
It is a large section with grave numbers between 24473 and 26567. Finding Jane would be a challenge - perhaps compiling a list of surrounding people to try and pinpoint it? Or write to the cemetery office now you have exact details and ask them if they will send you a map?

Netti
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: sss65 on Thursday 11 October 12 20:56 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much nemo and netti for this. I will attempt to write to the cemetry now I am sure where she is buried.
I really appreciate this,
Will let you know if I find anything else or manage to get there.
Phil if you do go to the Hive that's great but I think netti and nemo may have saved you a journey? if you can find anything else i would be happy but thanks very much for the offer.
 :D
Title: Re: Burial Rainbow Hill parish Worcester
Post by: StefanJarkowski on Monday 16 June 25 16:45 BST (UK)
Hi
Your relative was buried on 11 November 1887 at Astwood Rd. Her burial reference was 19073. Her burial plot is 25151.  The cemetery office should be able to easily point you to the precise spot with this information