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Euphrasia left New York in 1853 arriving in Melbourne same year. William Dean Tune is on passenger list leaving but not on arrival in Victoria Australia Any Ideas? Sandra Tune
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Hello Sandra & welcome.
Ship's often docked at other ports en route so he may have disembarked before the ship arrived in Australia or he may have died at sea.
jim
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In either case there ought to be a record of the event.
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Thanks Jim, William Dean Tune did arrive in Australia as lived here until his death in the early 1900's. Can you advice where I could find out the ships route?
Sandra
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As that voyage preceded both the Panama and Suez canals, I would suggest the following places as stops during the voyage, bearing in mind the ship if a steamer would have been coal fired. 1) Rio de Janeiro 2) Cape of Good Hope 3) Perth and 4) Melbourne. I would think that a coaling stop would be needed whilst crossing the Indian Ocean, so the ship may have been routed via Colombo (Sri Lanka) then Ceylon. I am certain they would not round Cape Horn by choice.
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The Times, Jan 6 1853
SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
Arrived New York: Euphrasia, from Lisbon
Daily News, Oct 29 1853
AUSTRALIAN SHIPPING
Melbourne Arrivals Aug 2nd - 20th
8th. Euphrasia, (from) the Cape
Confirms Redroger's view that rounding Cape Horn was not part of the itinerary
regards
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Was Euphrasia steam or sail? A steamer would have to make many more stops to take on coal, as I detailed above.
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http://www.maritimeheritage.org/PassLists/mining.html
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.jsp?q=record_ID:siris_ari_390644
2 links to the Euphrasia
regards
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Thanks for those links. A quick read has established 1) The Euphasia was a sailing ship. 2) The ship was used on the East Coast USA to California via Cape Horn in the 1849 gold rush and shortly afterwards. There is a specific reference to conditions on the Cape Horn run in the maritime heritage link. Though I still think it most likely a journey to Australia from the Eastern USA would be via Cape of Good Hope, there are sufficient references to the Cape Horn route to make me a little uneasy. Clearly all my suggestions about coaling stations are reduced to ashes (pun intended) though passengers would still need to eat, and it would be fresh fruit or scurvy whichever way they went.
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Northern Star and Leeds Advertiser, Oct 7, 1843
ADVERTISMENT
Line of Packet Ships
Ship Captain Tons To sail
For New York
Henry Bliss Cummins 700 5th Oct
For Boston
Euphrasia Buntin 500 5th Oct
For New Orleans
Espindola Barstow 700 10th Oct
Emigrants about to embark for the above ports will find the accommodation on board these ships of a very superior description in Cabin, Second Cabin and Steerage. Families or parties desirous of being select can have separate rooms.
A sufficient supply of Biscuits, Flour, Oatmeal, Rice and Potatoes are found by the ship; and one shilling per day allowed each passenger, if detained, according to Act of Parliament.
Apply to Fitzhugh, Walker and Co 12 Goree Piazzas, Liverpool
The "desirous of being select" is great but what's the significance of the reference to "one shilling allowed ...."?
regards
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My guess is that being a sailing ship the "if detained" refers to delays caused by adverse winds and weather conditions, and the 1 shilling a day is either an additional subsistence allowance, or a part refund. Risky to the company I would think! However, the question still remains "Which route was followed from Eastern USA to Australia? Cape Horn or Cape of Good Hope?" I think needed to resolve the questions, but would surmise if via Cape Horn the ship may have docked at Sydney or somewhere in New Zealand before Melbourne. If via Cape of Good Hope, then I would think it docked first at Perth.
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The "Shipping Intelligence/News" reports in newspapers normally identified last port of call and next port of call or port currently berthed (rather than describing the overall journey).
My earlier post mentions the Euphrasia at Melbourne, "from the Cape" 8th Aug 1853. I take this to mean that it sailed West to East in one long haul. There is also mention of the ship at Lisbon earlier in the year (going East West to New York).
The ship is mentioned in the morning Chronicle, Sep 8th, 1852 "Vessels spoken with, Euphrasia, New Orleans to Lisbon, Aug 8th, 24N. 82SW".
regards
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Yes, I agree it would make sense to take advantage of the prevailing westerly wind in "The roaring 40s" Whichever way it was done it is a very long voyage.
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Hi, not sure if you already have this info.
Notice in the New York Daily Tribune 2 March 1853, Page 8. Passengers sailed in the "Euphrasia" for Australia.......with a list of passengers.
Arrived on 8 Aug 1853 on the `EUPHRASIA` in Melbourne from New York, America, via Bahia, Brazil and the Cape of Good Hope.
CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. Sydney Morning Herald – Tues 9 Aug 1853.
The following vessels were also laying at the Cape for the Colonies: Euphrasia for Port Phillip. The American emigrant ship Euphrasia was compelled to port in Bahia, on account of a severe gale she encountered. While in the port the Euphrasia lost one passenger from yellow fever. The Euphrasia left on the 20th April (South African, June 20th).