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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: Rossi327 on Wednesday 14 September 11 14:47 BST (UK)
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Henry John EARLE is my 3rd Great Grandfather. Born 1852 in Barking and died 1889 in the Romford registration district.
I have discovered that his death was as a result of drowning in the Roding but I have no more information than this.
I assume an inquest would have resulted from his untimely death and there would have possibly been some local media coverage either from the incident or the inquest.
I have looked all over the internet to find anything relating to this but have hit a brick wall. Can anyone suggest where I should be looking to find details of the inquest or media coverage?
Regards
Paul
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Hi Paul the Roding comes from Dunmow near Chelmsford flows through a collection of villages called Roding and then flows down to Barking Creek,for the jast few miles it is known as Barking Creek,the fact that your man died in the Romford area which covers Barking could mean that he died not far from Barking,the whole area of obits or inquest reports in newspapers for Essex is complex but if there is one, it will be in the Romford Times not the one that was started in 1937 but the much older one,it is a very strange thing but you cannot view this newspaper in Essex it is not at the Central Library at Chelmsford or at Essex Records,the only complete collection of this paper is at the British Library Newspaper collection at Collingdale London,you have the advantage of knowing when he died I suggest you get the death cert it may have other info,that will help you narrow what copy a inquest would be in.
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Hi Paul the Roding comes from Dunmow near Chelmsford flows through a collection of villages called Roding and then flows down to Barking Creek,for the jast few miles it is known as Barking Creek,the fact that your man died in the Romford area which covers Barking could mean that he died not far from Barking,the whole area of obits or inquest reports in newspapers for Essex is complex but if there is one, it will be in the Romford Times not the one that was started in 1937 but the much older one,it is a very strange thing but you cannot view this newspaper in Essex it is not at the Central Library at Chelmsford or at Essex Records,the only complete collection of this paper is at the British Library Newspaper collection at Collingdale London,you have the advantage of knowing when he died I suggest you get the death cert it may have other info,that will help you narrow what copy a inquest would be in.
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Thank you Geno500,
that explains why I was unable to find anything on the ERO'S website.
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Hi Paul the ERO have a very poor collection of newspapers,the Chelmsford Library has a great collection of Essex Chronicle which starts in the late 18th cent but this will not cover Barking,the reason I know about the Romford Times is that somebody else some time ago wanted a article about the death of a relative and also knew it had been in the Times,this led to a search in which I tried to locate a copy ,the newspaper archive at Collingdale is the only place they are online and I think for about £7 will I believe send you a copy of article or maybe the entire paper,the other thing I found out when moaning to the librarian at Colchester Library that I thought it wrong that ERO ,Colchester and Chelmsford did not have copies of this paper ,he said it was possible they could get a copy from Collingdale I suspect itwould not cost to much doing that way,if I remember the paper was a weekly so if you have a death date it should point to one issue,another point about Barking is that it once had a large fishing fleet so deaths from drowning happened as the vast majority of people could not swim.
Best Regards
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There is a burial register for Barking 1886-1894 online at SEAX - might be worth looking for his burial to see if the clergyman recorded any details.
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Thanks Scrabble,
I have looked through the register and can't find any mention of him in the year of his death and the following one.
It is possible that he didn't live in the area where he died.
I have now ordered the death cert. and will check his address to find the nearest church for burial.
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Hi getting the death cert is the way tp go,the Romford area in the general records is a very large area ,the only way to maybe point to a church or place is to check the census the one before he died and the one after to see if the family have moved,still the death cert is the best way to go.
Best Regards
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Hi I got the name of the paper wrong it is the Essex Times not Romford the person I helped some time ago just got in touch to say she had the article she wanted sent from Collingdale and was very pleased.
Best Regards
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Many thanks for keeping me updated
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Hi all,
just to kick start this again. I have just received the long awaited death certificate for Henry EARLE.
It raises more questions than it answers unfortunately. Cause of death is shown as, Found drowned (in the River Roding in the Parish of Great Ilford) but when, where or by what means there is no sufficient evidence to show. Inquest held 29th August 1889.
It seems I have stumbled upon a mystery. My next step is to seek out the Essex Times and also to go to the Essex Records Office and look through the Ilford burials. I'm now pretty sure that something like this would have made the local papers.
This will take me some time to get done as I am in full time employment and when at home in full time childcare but when I have some results I will update the post.
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Henry John Earle was buried 02 September 1889 In Newham. He had been experiencing head pain for a number of weeks before being found dead it was reported in the Essex Newsman, although the inquest found no indication of cause of death.
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FindMyPast have a number of newspaper articles about his disappearance and subsequent finding of his body, and the inquest. Apparently he left his undergarments and tools at Stratford town hall before he disappeared!
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FindmyPast is free until midnight tonight (Mon 11 Nov). Found at least one article from the Essex Newsman. You need to have (or set up) an account but not subscribe.
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