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Title: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: gingerslf on Wednesday 14 September 11 11:47 BST (UK)
Anyone able to read it please? Possibly German origins!
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: genjen on Wednesday 14 September 11 11:53 BST (UK)
Hi

I think the surname of the first one is Weiss ( with long first s).

I'll go back and look again at the rest.

Jen :)
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:04 BST (UK)
I agree with Weiss for the first surname.

The second surname might be Minourd...?

Can't make out either first name, though  :-\  Being "foreign" (at least to me) it makes it harder to see what they  might be - usually if they're familiar names, even if the writing is difficult you can usually work out what it is.

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: genjen on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:08 BST (UK)
The first name of the second witness has double s in the middle and I can't fathom it out at all?

What's the date of this document? It might help to look at censuses.

( though I'm not going to be able to do that as am just about to disappear, sorry!)

Up to you Prue! :)
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: gingerslf on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:10 BST (UK)
genjen

I was just about to post exactly that.
The wedding took place in Sheffield 1857 between Charles Eckhart and Christiana Klein
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: roopat on Wednesday 14 September 11 20:16 BST (UK)
Very tentative suggestion for first Christian name... Lindmar?

Pat
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: daisy65 on Thursday 06 October 11 15:30 BST (UK)
I also thought it was weiss but I'm sure the first name is Ludovic. It definitely has an 'i' just before the last letter you can see the small dot on my copy?   
The second christian name begins with an 'A' and ends with a 'd' but not sure about the rest?
Adele 
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 06 October 11 16:31 BST (UK)
1st Christian name I see Ludomir or possibly Ludovic. Confirm Weiss, with initial long S
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: apwright on Thursday 06 October 11 17:19 BST (UK)
I read the first one as Ludwig (with an underdeveloped g) Weiss, possibly the same one that died in Sheffield in Q2 1860.

Adrian
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Redroger on Friday 07 October 11 19:11 BST (UK)
Christian name of second witness might begin Ans----- Think you are on the right track about the surname
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Alexander. on Friday 07 October 11 22:38 BST (UK)
Assuming they married in a church - have you considered checking the parish register (with the original signatures) on the off chance that they are more legible there? I can't make head nor tail of the first names.

Alexander
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: MaggiesGD on Tuesday 11 October 11 17:37 BST (UK)
Going against the concensus I see the first surname as Weils.  Not sure why anyone would write an exceptionally long S right next to a small one
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 12 October 11 16:44 BST (UK)
Going against the concensus I see the first surname as Weils.  Not sure why anyone would write an exceptionally long S right next to a small one

Because Maggie in that era it was customary to write any s in the beginning or middle of a word in the long S format. One thing that does go in favour of your proposal though is that if the family were German and the name was Weiss, then it would I think more usual to use the German double S at the end of the word, which looks something like a capital B. Perhaps there is someone of Rootschat who can produce these characters as specimens to assist?
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Alexander. on Wednesday 12 October 11 16:58 BST (UK)
Wikipedia - Long s - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s

I assume Roger you are referring to the fact that in German Weiss may be written as Weiß

Alexander
Title: Re: Can you read the names of witnesses?
Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 12 October 11 17:45 BST (UK)
Exactly, but I do not have the keyboard skills to produce the proper character.