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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Rossi327 on Tuesday 13 September 11 17:44 BST (UK)
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Hello,
my 3rd Great Grandfather Edward Allen PAGE emigrated with his second wife Eliza to Australia at some time between 1873 and 1881. I have narrowed it down to these dates with the second marriage date and the fact neither appear on the 1881 census.
Edward was born in 1844 in Brighton, Sussex and married in the same town in 1868. They had one child and his first wife died in 1872 when their child was one year old.
Edward gave up his child to another family, for reasons unknown, and remarried in 1873 to Eliza FAIRMAN in Southwark, now South London.
I have found a death record for and Edward Allen PAGE on Ancestry however as I don't have access to the world archives I don't know what state and town he resided in. I also do not know where he landed on his arrival. I would love to know more about him and what he did in Australia. His occupation listed on the 1871 census was Painter, I would imagine the decorator type.
Many thanks in advance.
Paul
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If you know he is your ggg grandfather, then you have identified your gg grandparent, a son/daughter of Edward Allen Page and Eliza Firman.
Where and when was that ancestor born...that would locate this family in Australia.
Or are you descended from the son born from the first marriage?
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Correction - the child of the first marriage.
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Sorry, I should have said before.
I am descended from the child of the first marriage, who was left in England.
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Do you have parents names for Eliza Fairman and Edward Allen please.
What do you know that has them definitely going to Australia?
Did they have children in Australia?
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I only know Edward Allen's parents are John PAGE and Ann BURT.
I have the indication of the death record from searches on ancestry. This with the fact that he simply disappears from the UK records after 1873 adds to my belief that he and his new Wife emigrated to Australia.
I don't know if they had children either in the UK or Australia.
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Here's one possibility - a funeral notice in Adelaide in 1915 for an Edward Allen Page
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5484833
regards,
Ros
Edit to add:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5384415
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5388959
someone stole the couch of this man's front verandah
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Here's one possibility - a funeral notice in Adelaide in 1915 for an Edward Allen Page
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5484833
regards,
Ros
Wow
That is great. If this is one and the same I think I have found article on the same website about him giving evidence about a theft of a couch from a verandah.
Classic
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With the information about the death in Adelaide I have visited the State Records of South Australia website and I think I have located Edward and Eliza arriving in 1874, which fits in with what I already know.
Know all I need is an opportunity to visit Australia to find out more as their records have not been digitised!
D'oh
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http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article39816855
This is newspaper announcement of arrival in 1874
regards,
Ros
(sorry I added couch info after you had already found it)
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Hi,
A death registration in South Australia, might be him.
Edward Allen Page
Death date: 23rd Oct 1915 at Parkside.
Age 70, estimated birth year 1845.
Registration place: Adelaide.
Page 119, Vol No 396.
Regards
Gerry
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A bit of a long shot for death of Eliza Page from Parkside - age seems about right
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47543612
regards,
Ros
(14 March 1934 Eliza Ann Page)
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South Australia PO Directory 1903 (Wise)
Page Edwin A. painter, Alfred st. Parkside.
Note# Edwin instead of Edward.
Gerry
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There is an Edward Allen Page (25th Oct 1915) & Eliza Ann Page (15th Mar 1934) buried at the West Terrace Cemetery in Adelaide.
http://aca.sa.gov.au/Ourcemeteries/WestTerraceCemetery.aspx
Gerry
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rosball and Aussie1947,
thank you for your hard work around this, the information you found was a lot more than I was expecting.
I have never had to research any Australian ancestors before and you have shown me some valuable resources.
I think the best bit of information was that he had his couch stolen and the thief was given six hours hard labour!
Thank you once again.
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Another possibility for their sons (if any) is service in WW1.
http://naa12.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/
I have been browsing these without finding anything definitive (but I must admit that I get distracted by the sad and/or interesting stories)
But there are South Australian experts (Kris for example) who can look up births, marriages etc in South Australia. I wonder if adding South Australia to the topic name will attract their attention?
regards,
Ros
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Another possibility for their sons (if any) is service in WW1.
http://naa12.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/
I have been browsing these without finding anything definitive (but I must admit that I get distracted by the sad and/or interesting stories)
But there are South Australian experts (Kris for example) who can look up births, marriages etc in South Australia. I wonder if adding South Australia to the topic name will attract their attention?
regards,
Ros
I will give that a try
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South Australia Death Registrations
Edward Allen PAGE
Death: 23/10/1923
70y
Residence - Parkside, South Australia - Death place - Parkside
Eliza Ann PAGE (W)
Death:14/3/1934
85y
Residence - Magill, South Australia - Death place - Magill,
Edward Allen PAGE (DH)
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Also buried with Edward & Eliza is
Emma Bates
Date of Death: 06 April 1920
Age: 86 Years
Cheers Sue