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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Cockneyrebel on Sunday 11 September 11 09:47 BST (UK)
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I've found the above with the help of Claire.t. born 1857 at St.Pancras married Emma Rebecca Croft b1858 married 27 Jun 1880 at Wandsworth, found them on the 1881 census but thereafter they both disappear from view. I think I may have found his death in 1943 at Edmonton but other than that I'm am bereft!
CR
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HI
can you give us the 1881 Census info so we can see them ??? Always easier to track when we have the info :)
cheers cardiff :)
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Hello Cardiff
RG11 653/83/17
Joseph J Hunt 25 bricklayer b Somers Town London
Emma R 19 wife b Brixton Surrey
63 Sterndale Rd Battersea
Havent been able to find on any other census either
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Hi
What children did they have? dates and names please :)
cheers cardiff ???
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Hi Cardiff.
I can't find any children especially as they don't appear after the 1881 census!
CR
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Hi
Ok so how are you related to them?
cheers cardiff ???
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So where are you Cockneyrebel.We cant help with no feedback ???
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Theres a Joseph J Hunt b 1857 single bricklayer departing for New York 10/4/1907 from Southampton says single on marital status
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Hi
looks like they are off line!
Better to wait for some feed back other wise will go round in circles ::)
Interesting find on the ship for USA
cheers cardiff :)
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I relate to Joseph Jesse Hunt as 1st cousin, 3 times removed, his father Joseph Jesse Hunt b1829 was married to Sarah Ann Rosser who was my 2nd g grand aunt on my paternal side. As I cannot get much further back for certain on the Rosser side beyond about 1815, I was hoping that some of the related ones further along may be still alive and have knowledge of the early Rossers'.
CR
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Could this be Emma's death, I know the age is out by exactly 10 years (a typo in the index) , but there doesn't seem to be another suitable entry for her
Sep 1890
Hunt Emma Rebecca, 43, Marylebone 1a 370
If so he may well have considered himself single rather than a widower and gone on a trip.
Dawn
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Do you know what's happening with the 1905 marriage (seen on freebmd) in Edmonton? Is that a different Joseph?
There is a bricklayer Joseph Jesse Hunt (says he's 40) on Ellis Island, heading to Washington in 1909, wife at home "Mrs B", returns in 1911 with wife "Helen" b. Gibraltar - might fit with the Ellen Grimerson on the 1905 marriage (I think she is in Enfield in 1901 and there does seem to be info about this family around). The age difference on some records might be due to Ellen/Helen being a fair bit younger than him.
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/0616693FB4045F976AA84C053EEADB7D_1.jpg
- on the 1910 census, he's listed as "M2" = married twice - and arrived first in 1907... age now up to a more accurate 54.
Incidentally it looks to me like Emma is Emma Roberta, not Emma Rebecca - she died in June quarter 1905 in Epsom and he marries next quarter, in Edmonton, so not wasting any time there.
The questions then are if they were living together during the 1881-1905 years, and were in England - and if so, where on earth are they hiding? Tracking Emma's parents/siblings forward through the censuses might help.
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Hi Jorose,
I believe the Edmonton marriage is for a different Joseph.
With the information that you gave for Emma Roberta's death, I found her Will, wherein she left her effects worth just over £105 to her husband Joseph Jesse Hunt; she died at Banstead Asylum but was previously living at Montefiore Street, Battersea.
Perhaps that explains why Joseph got married quickly.
I can't find a birth for Ellen Grimerson only on the 1891 census she was born 1872 in Gibraltar, her marriage cert says her father was Samuel Grimerson, a deceased soldier; she is 33 whilst Joseph is 47. The Helen on the 1901 census appears to be a different one as she was born in Woolwich.
On the US census what does Pa mean as regards emigration?
CR
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It seems as if the trail has gone cold!
CR
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Hi Jorose,
Re the Ellen GRIMERSON posting you will finder her in the 1901 Census of England.
Her Father was Samuel GRIMASON and she was born 23 April 1872 at Gibraltar.
Her mother was Maria, have not yet found out what her Maiden name was though or when Samuel and Maria Married or where.
The GRIMERSON spelling is a variant of the GRIMASON surname along with GRIMISON and GRIMESON all part and parcel of my One Name Study which is registered with the Guild Of One Name Studies.
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Hi Grimason,
Thank you for the info regarding her birth.
Cr
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Think this is a possible marriage for Samuel
Samuel Grimson
Maria Clark Rowe
Mar qu 1861 Greenwich 1 D 654
his army records show he was 11yrs 8mths in Gibraltar and was discharged 17 Apr 1874 on ground of chronic rheumatism therefore I assume he was at Woolwich before he went to Gibralta hence the Greenwich marriage.He attested at Dromore,Co Down 30 Oct 1858 a gunner in Royal Artillery,this was his birth place about 1838 he was a weaver.
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Thank you Isobelruss that seems to have settled everything.
Cr
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Hi Isobelruss,
Thank you for that bit of information, yet again my lot using another surname, this time GRIMSON and I ought to have checked that mind you it is possible that Louise St Clair who was doing a One Name Study on the GRIMSON/ GRIMSTON/ GRIMSTONE surname had him in her database, it would appear that Louise may no longer be doing any research however i could be proven wrong on that count.
As for the birth place being in County Down that is a possible however more likely to have been County Armagh as that is were the bulk of the GRIMASON baptisms / births are for the period of 1846 to 1864 at least.
Looks like I will need to check out that Marriage and see if it gives any clues as to his parents.
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You are possibly right about Co Armagh and there was another Samuel Grimerson from there in the army but after studying his records he didnt go to Gibralta at all .So Id say that is definately yours from Co Down
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Hi Isobelruss,
I know about the other Samuel GRIMASON or as you have him GRIMERSON yet another variation of the surname that I already knew about.
So the two Samuel GRIMASON's that were in the armed forces about 1880 who married are as follows;
Samuel GRIMASON / GRIMSON + Maria Clark ROWE 1861 @ Greenwich, England
Ex Weaver, well that sure is one of the occupations my lot did, however I guess it was not exclusive to one surname.
Samuel GRIMASOM + Theresa CAMILLERIE 1 Aug 1864 @ Malta
This Samuel was born about 1836 @ Drumcree, Armagh, Ireland.
Please note both Samuels had sons by the same name as well, why should I not be surprised. lol
It would appear that Samuel GRIMASON the son of Samuel GRIMASON and Maria Clark ROWE also was involved in the Armed forces at least about 1901 after that period I am not sure.
As for the other Samuel GRIMASON the son of Samuel GRIMASON and Theresa CAMILLERIE his occupation was a Boot maker and he Died in CANADA in 1958 there is a bit of a story that goes with this one concerning family in England and Canada that neither knew about each other, still unraveling the Canadian part.