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Looking for ancestors of both James Ayton (born about 1828 Ellerbeck) and Ann Long (born 1832 Thirsk) their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and children all a mystery
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Is this a married couple or 2 unconnected individuals?
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James Ayton (born about 1821 Ellerbeck)
Do you mean 1831?
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Married couple, not sure when or where
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Have you checked freebmd? www.freebmd.org.uk
There is an IGI entry for Ann's baptism - have you checked the IGI first?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
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sorry looked at wrong date altogether :-\ should be born 1828
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Where did you get Ann's maiden name from?
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There's this marriage on FreeBMD
Marriage, Mar qtr 1854
James Hayton
Ann Long
Thirsk, Vol 9d, pahe 513
Pels.
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Can't remember exact location I got info from and would have to go hunting again to trace but know all seemed right at the time.
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Now that the marriage ref has been found - you will need to buy a copy of the cert to get his fathers name
1851 has James living with his grandparents James 74 and Ann 76 and shown as Hayton b 1832
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This looks a good possibility and could be the reason why he was with his grandparents in 1851 :
Baptism - Osmotherley
26th September 1831
James Hayton
Relationship - Son
Parent : Ann
Abode: Ellerbeck
North Riding of Yorkshire
Pels.
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Just found him on the 1841 indexed as Haton and aged 9yrs - still with grandparents and living in Thirsk. Nobody else in household
HO107 Piece 1238/5 Folio not shown Page 15
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Hi again,
Ann Long (born 1832 Thirsk) their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and children all a mystery
Here are the baptism's of Ann and some of her siblings :
Christening: 20th February 1833
Ann Long
Father: John Long
Mother : Mary
Thirsk
Christening: 10th January 1836
Mary Long
Father: John Long
Mother : Mary
Thirsk
Christening: 14th May 1836
Elizabeth Long
Father: John Long
Mother : Mary
Thirsk
Christening: 9th July 1837
Robert Long
Father: John Long
Mother : Mary
Thirsk
Pels.
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And the above family in 1841 :
1841 census :
HO107/1238/6; Folio 14, Page 21
Yorkshire, Thirsk
St James' Green
John Long, 30, Bricklayer
Mary, 25
Ann, 8
Mary, 6
Elizabeth, 5
Robert, 3
Thomas, 1
Martha, 2 mths
All born in county.
Pels.
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The two additional births taken from FreeBMD :
Birth, Sept qtr 1839
Thomas Long
Thirsk, Vol 24, page 467
Birth, June qtr 1841
Martha Long
Thirsk, Vol 24, page 508
Pels.
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1851 census :
HO107/2371, Folio 308, Page 16
Yorkshire, Thirsk
Long Street
John Long, h. mar 41, Builder and Emp. of 2 men,
Mary, wife 39
Elizabeth, dau 15, Dress Maker
Robert, son 13
Thomas, son, 11
Martha, dau, 9
James, son, 4
All the above born in Thirsk.
Pels.
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Only one further child by the time they compiled the 1851 census :
Birth, Mar qtr 1847
James Long
Thirsk, Vol 24, page 526
Added :
Was this originally posted by accident in the Completed Lookup section, or has it been moved ?
Pels.
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Marriage : 1st September 1832
John Long
Mary Bateman
Thirsk, Yorkshire
Pels.
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Here's a possible birth for John :
John Long :
Christening: 16th December 1810
Birth: 14th November 1810
Parents : Robert and Mary Long
Leake, North Riding of Yorkshire
There are a couple living in 1851 by the names of Robert and Mary Long. Robert has listed his birthplace as Borrowby, which is in the parish of Leake
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Leake/index.html
If you would like these details, give me a shout.
Pels.
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Here's a possible birth for John :
John Long :
Christening: 16th December 1810
Birth: 14th November 1810
Parents : Robert and Mary Long
Leake, North Riding of Yorkshire
There are a couple living in 1851 by the names of Robert and Mary Long. Robert has listed his birthplace as Borrowby, which is in the parish of Leake
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Leake/index.html
If you would like these details, give me a shout.
Pels.
Yes please Pels ,thanks for all your help
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Only one further child by the time they compiled the 1851 census :
Birth, Mar qtr 1847
James Long
Thirsk, Vol 24, page 526
Added :
Was this originally posted by accident in the Completed Lookup section, or has it been moved ?
Pels.
I didn't post it in completed, don't know how or who moved it, can it be put back in beginners or in Yorkshire North Riding?
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I didn't post it in completed, don't know how or who moved it, can it be put back in beginners or in Yorkshire North Riding?
It already is in the Yorkshire North Riding part Bob, just in the wrong bit. I don't suppose it really matters, must have been a mistake when it was moved ! :-\
I'll have a look at the 1851 with Robert and Mary now. Back in a while.
Pels.
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I'll start with the 1841 first :
1841 census:
HO107/1238/6, Folio 27, Page 4
Yorkshire, Thirsk
Long Street
Robert Long, 55, Ag Lab
Mary, 55
William, 20, Brick m' Ap
Harry, 15, Brick layer Ap
David, 14
Hannah, 11
Thomas, 5
All born in county.
Pels
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Just noticed Mary was born in Borrowby not Robert, but that might make more sense.
1851 census:
HO107/2371, Folio 307, Page 15
Yorkshire Thirsk,
Long Street
Robert Long, h. mar, 66, Ag Lab, b. Yorks, Thirsk
Mary, wife, 64, Yorks, Borrowby
Hannah, dau, unm, 20, Servant, b. Thirsk
Thomas, grandson, 14, Ag Lab, b. Thirsk
One thing that's bothering me, the fact there might have been two grandchildren by the name of Thomas ?
* This might have to be treated with caution.
Added: Sorted, per the post below.
Pels.
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This looks promising :
Thomas Long
Christening: 6th January 1836
Mother's Name: Ann Long
Thirsk
Ann Long was the child of Robert and Mary Long, sister to John.
Hence the two grandchildren by the name of Thomas in 1851.
Ann Long
Christening: 25 Feb 1812
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1812
Father's Name: Robert Long
Mother's Name: Mary
Leake, North Riding of Yorkshire
Pels.