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Title: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 08 September 11 22:29 BST (UK)
Sarah Williams is a widow living in Brynford Flintshire in 1881-RG11/5504/7/8.

To help with finding out what happened to her children I'd like opinions on the place in Staffordshire where her children Sarah aged 9 and John aged 7 were born please?

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: Seoras on Thursday 08 September 11 23:09 BST (UK)
I can't find it William,do you think it has been mistranscribed.I see her husband was a lead miner and there were lead mines in Staffordshire,it was used in the ceramics industry,which would explain how he and his family came to be there.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: trish58 on Thursday 08 September 11 23:14 BST (UK)
Found it on FindMyPast it says Sarah & John born in Tousan Staffordshire, there are also other children Rboert, Barbara, Elizabeth, Joseph. Sarah widow of lead miner.

Is this the correct family ?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: genjen on Thursday 08 September 11 23:15 BST (UK)
It looks like Tourton and whilst I can't see any place of that name in Staffordshire, I have noticed several 'Turton' road/street names in and around the county. I wonder if there was a place known as Turton at that time?

Jen
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: Seoras on Thursday 08 September 11 23:29 BST (UK)
Ancestry has it as Touston but when I Google it all I come up with is Houston Texas ;D
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Thursday 08 September 11 23:42 BST (UK)
Thanks,yes you have hit on the right family.With such popular names it doesn't make finding later info easy!The only one I've made progress with so far is the Barbara and I couldn't find her in 1891!

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: Seoras on Friday 09 September 11 00:14 BST (UK)
William do you know what Sarah's (the wife) maiden name was.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 09 September 11 00:22 BST (UK)
I believe her maiden name was Sarah Evans.Sarah Evans married a Joseph Williams at Flint St Mary in 1865.

I'm wondering whether the place beginning with T could in fact be Trefonen Shropshire where the couple were in 1871-RG10/2781/24/3.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: Seoras on Friday 09 September 11 00:43 BST (UK)
I'm wondering if the transcriber has misheard Tunstall in Staffordshire.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 09 September 11 01:06 BST (UK)
Its a possibility,I should have thought of it too,I have enough relatives who were born there!

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: franh1946 on Friday 09 September 11 07:37 BST (UK)
Yes, you can imagine Tunstall pronounced as it would be in Staffs (Toonst'll?) might sound like Touston to a Welsh ear!
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: genjen on Friday 09 September 11 09:01 BST (UK)
Quote from: franh1946 on Friday 09 September 11 07:37 BST (UK)
Yes, you can imagine Tunstall pronounced as it would be in Staffs (Toonst'll?) might sound like Touston to a Welsh ear!

I wondered about that but Sarah, who was head of household and would have given the information, was from Flintshire and wouldn't have spoken with a Staffordshire accent.

Jen
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 09 September 11 09:42 BST (UK)
Yes its not easy at all.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: franh1946 on Monday 12 September 11 03:00 BST (UK)
That's true genjen, but if Sarah wasn't literate, she would accept the pronunciation as she heard it, not as it was spelt.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: handm on Friday 16 September 11 18:43 BST (UK)
Hello
If you have the maiden surname for Sarah you might be lucky with entering the children's names on Staffordshirebmd.org.uk baptism section. In a lot of cases the mother's maiden name is given and it can be of help.
Handm
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 16 September 11 21:24 BST (UK)
Well handm thanks,Sarah's maiden name I believe was Evans so I'll take a look.I can't think why I didn't think of it myself especially as I visit the site almost daily!

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Where Were Sarah's Children Born?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 16 September 11 22:41 BST (UK)
Thanks again handm,whilst the John Williams isn't showing as such,there is the birth of a Sarah Williams in 1872 with the mother's maiden name of Evans in the Tunstall sub district on Staffordshire BMD.

Regards
William Russell Jones.