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Title: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 13:08 BST (UK)
Hi to all

Trying to trace John Patrick Dougan and family from Glasgow.
He lived in Sydney NSW towards the latter end of the 19th century and married my grandads sister Margaret Currie around 1890ish.
They had 7 children and many of the descendants still live in the Sydney area.
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks
John
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 16:15 BST (UK)
When was he born?

Do you know his parents names?
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 16:26 BST (UK)
I'm sorry sancti I don't know either.

I'm chasing this on behalf of my 2nd cousin in Sydney who has recently lost her father so I don't want to disturb her just now.

Just thought I might touch something in someones head - bit of a long shot I know with such scant info.

Thanks for your help.

John
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 16:44 BST (UK)
Any idea when he left Scotland?
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 16:53 BST (UK)
No sorry no idea about that either.

All I can give is a shot at his age in 1892 probably somewhere between 27 & 37.

He married my grandad's sister Magaret Currie 1892 in Leichhardt, Sydney and his children were Winifred, Rita (Margaret), Kathleen, Maurice, Teresa, Lucy and one other who died in infancy whose name I think was Alice - all born Sydney.

Thanks again
John
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 17:05 BST (UK)
Do you know his occupation
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 19:02 BST (UK)
Sorry sancti I been looking through all my info and can't find anything more about John Patrick.

Not much help am I?

Thanks very much for helping.

John
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 19:09 BST (UK)
Ancestry has an Australian death index for a John P Dougan

Will the death record give his parents names?
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 20:59 BST (UK)
Yes the Australian records usually do give parents' names on their death records.
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 21:01 BST (UK)
If you get his parents names it will be easier to find him on early censuses
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 21:09 BST (UK)
Great idea.
I'm not with ancestry at the moment but it's about time I re-joined.
Thanks for your help sancti.
John
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 11 21:19 BST (UK)
Try posting a request on the Australia section of Rootschat
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Thursday 08 September 11 21:49 BST (UK)
OK will do that too should have done it in the 1st place thanks.
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: Rodeo on Friday 09 September 11 10:49 BST (UK)
There's a fairly comprehensive tree on Ancestry, which cites John Patrick Dougan's parents as Patrick Dougan (b. 1829) and Mary (no maiden surname, b. 1823). It includes a sepia photo of John Patrick Dougan and some photos of their children.

John Patrick Dougan died in Ashfield, NSW, in 1934. His wife, Margaret Currie (b. 1868 in Dundee, Scotland), daughter of William Currie an Anne McGuire, emigrated to Australia in 1887, age 19, on the ship Port Victor. She died in 1939, age 71, in Ashfield. Their children seem, in the main, to have married and remained in Sydney's inner west -- Leichhardt, Ashfield, Marrickville, Haberfield and St. Peters.

Their daughter, Winifred, married Ernest Treloar and she died, age 65, in Marrickville in 1957.

Many of your relations also appear in Australian electoral roll records covering the years 1903-1954.

Re Alan Sharp's post, Theresa M (Tessa) Dougan's husband, John Foley, died in New Zealand. There appears to be a link there.

Cheers,

Rodeo
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: ev on Friday 09 September 11 12:00 BST (UK)
hi all  :)

the IGI has a margaret corry born 26th july 1865 dundee angus
parents william corry and ann mcguire

you can also check dates here-

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

ev

Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: sage on Friday 09 September 11 14:07 BST (UK)
Given the information available on the ancestry trees the belief is that John Patrick's parents were Patrick and Mary Dougan.

There is a match in the 1861 census living at 78 New Dalmarnock Rd, Calton (reg dist Bridgeton)

Patrick Dougan aged 40, born Glasgow, Furniture Broker, Head
Mary Dougan aged 38, b Glasgow
Patrick Dougan aged 9, b Glagow, Scholar
Mary Dougan aged 5, b Glagow, Scholar
Edward Dougan aged 5, b Glasgow
Margt Dougan aged 4, b Glasgow
Francis I. Dougan aged 1, b Glasgow

Found matching IGI births for Edward above b 29 Jan 1855, Bridgeton
Margt b 22 Dec 1856, Bridgeton and Francis Joseph b 08 May 1859, Bridgeton

Parents for the above were Patrick Dougan and Mary Campbell

In 1871 living at 76 New Dalmarnock Rd, Calton:
Mary C Dougan, Head, aged 46, b Glasgow
John P Dougan, son, aged 19, Umbrella Maker, b Glagow
Mary aged 17, Woollen Reeler
Edward aged 15, Stationer Asst
Margt aged 13, Scholar
Francis aged 10, Scholar

Hope this helps, Sage.
Title: Re: John Patrick Dougan
Post by: johncurrie1949 on Friday 09 September 11 18:35 BST (UK)
Thanks very much to everybody for your speedy and informative replies.

Appreciate all your help..........amazing.

I can really go forward with all this.

John