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Title: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Wednesday 07 September 11 15:09 BST (UK)
I have had it confirmed that the grave of my Grandmother is at Flaybrick but has no memorial inscription, I don't have the grave number yet, but does anyone know if there is a map and if it is actually possible to locate an unmarked plot? They would be buried in the CofE part in 1929 and 1938.

Thanks
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Wednesday 07 September 11 16:16 BST (UK)
Depending on where (which Section) in the cemetery it is, you can usually get within a couple of feet of where the plot is.

Some sections are worse off than others, both in terms of numbering & ground condition.

You can see a map here:
http://www.gavinrymill.com/flaybrick/flaybrick-cemetary-map.html

Once you know the number let me know and I could give you a better idea of what the area is like.
Regards
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Wednesday 07 September 11 22:33 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help. I am hoping to do it all in one visit as live too far away, I guess there will be a way of identifying the plot with numbers at Birkenhead library.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Scottiedog on Thursday 08 September 11 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi

From my experience, yes, you can identify the plot number at the library, but to locate it you'll need a plot map of the section from the office at Landican.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Thursday 08 September 11 23:10 BST (UK)
Thanks, I will contact Landican and see if they can help, but its looking like I might be pushed to try and do it all in a day unfortunately, if some research cant be done before the visit.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Neptune on Monday 19 September 11 13:12 BST (UK)
Hi

Just wondering if you've been able to find out any more information yet.
If not I can have a look for you next time I go to Birkenhead library where the burial records for Flaybrick cemetery are held on film(according to religion).

Maybe you could let us know their names and ages?

Regards

Neptune
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Monday 19 September 11 15:36 BST (UK)
Neptune, I have not got further, thanks for the offer of help that would be brilliant  :)

Religion CofE

I am told that my Grandmother and Aunt were buried in the same plot:

Elizabeth Cochrane (Maiden name Graham) died 1929 aged 42
Ella Snape (Maiden name Cochrane) died 1929 aged 24

I have been told there is a Francis Robert Corcoran (born 1901) buried in the same grave, I don't know his death date.

Thanks again for the offer of help.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Neptune on Monday 19 September 11 15:43 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Thanks for the info. Leave it with me and I'll see what I can find when I go to the Library, hopefully before the weekend.

I'll get back to you.

Regards

Neptune
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Neptune on Tuesday 20 September 11 22:52 BST (UK)
Hi

I went to the library tonight and looked through the C of E  Burials for Flaybrick but couldn't see entries in either 1925 for Elizabeth Cochrane or in 1938 for Ella Snape.
However I did find them in the Non Conformist burials so have the details for you -

Flaybrick Non Conformist -

Elizabeth Cochrane age 42 wife of William  127 Livingstone Street   Burial 18/5/1929  Private Grave  Section 7 grave number 489

Ella Snape age 24 (spinster?) 20 Burrell Drive Moreton  Burial 16/5/1938 Private grave  Section 7 grave number 489

So they are buried together .

Although the record states Ella was a spinster there's a marriage on Free BMD for an Ella Cochrane to Lancelot Snape in the June quarter of 1936 in Wallasey.

There's a map at the entrance to Flaybrick which shows the section numbers. From memory I think the non-conformist section is on the left as you go in the main entrance.

Hope this helps


Neptune

Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Wednesday 21 September 11 08:38 BST (UK)
Netune, Thanks so much for all your help and taking the time to look, much appreciated.

I now hope to get over to Flaybrick some time and visit the grave.

Thanks again for all your help  :)
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Scottiedog on Wednesday 21 September 11 16:56 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Cochrane age 42 wife of William  127 Livingstone Street   Burial 18/5/1929  Private Grave  Section 7 grave number 489
Livingstone St. - The site of the old Public Baths. Gone now of course.

Here's the section plan.
http://www.gavinrymill.com/flaybrick/flaybrick-cemetary-map.html

You may be lucky and be able to locate an unmarked grave, but when I tried there were so many unmarked ones and illegible stones that I needed the more detailed map of plots within the section.

HTH & best of luck
Les
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Wednesday 21 September 11 17:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Les, as Neptune said its on the left as you walk in, I have looked at google maps and I think it may be as you found, as there does appear to be many unmarked graves. I have just phoned Landican and they will see what they can do, they said that the grave maps are in poor condition.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Thursday 22 September 11 15:46 BST (UK)
Its starting to look better, spoke to Landican cemetery, and they said that its on the left side as you walk in from Tollemache Rd, and that the grave is bordered by house bricks, there is no other done like this in the vicinity.
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: Neptune on Thursday 22 September 11 21:37 BST (UK)
Hi again

We went to Flaybrick this evening on the way home to have a look for you. The grave was quite easy to find from your description(as there was no number but some close by were numbered)

Just about a hundred yards or so from the entrance. Although it is unmarked a few of the bricks are visible so you can see the position of the grave.

I took a few photographs for you if you would like to see them - and will send a pm.

Regards

Neptune
Title: Re: Unmarked grave at Flaybrick
Post by: McBiko on Thursday 22 September 11 22:06 BST (UK)
Neptune, Thanks so much for your help that is brilliant to know you found the grave  :)

Would love to see the pics please.