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Title: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Wednesday 07 September 11 00:04 BST (UK)
Hi, Im trying to track a Bryant Family in the Bermondsey area.The person Im looking for is John Bryant born 1833.His Parents were William and Ann ( Formerly Colville).He emmigrated to NZ about 1864, would love to know anything about this family,  Thanks  Matt
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 07 September 11 01:18 BST (UK)
In your post on the Somerset board - you say he was in Somerset.  Where does the information re: Bermondsey and Somerset  come from?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,553920.msg4068190.html#msg4068190
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Wednesday 07 September 11 02:03 BST (UK)
Hi, his Death cert in New Zealand states he was from Somerset.But knowing the families in the area in NZ I suspect he may have been from Bermondsey and part of my ancestry.
Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 07 September 11 02:37 BST (UK)
1841 England Census
living in King Street

William Bryant 50 shoemaker, all born in county
Ann do 50
Joseph do 20
George do 15
John do 14

Class HO107  /  Piece 1047  /  Book 5  /  Civil parish = St Mary Magdelan Bermonsey


1851 - William must have died here
living 6 King Street, (son?? Joseph is living at No. 7 King street all on same page with wife Mary - will post after this one to see what you think)

Ann Bryant 61 head widow, charwoman b. ALL are listed as born Bermondsey Surrey
George do 25 son dyer
John do 22 son  tanner
Ann Higdon 41 dau char woman
Eliza do 14 g dau
Mary do 12 g dau
James do 5 g son

Ho 107  /  Piece 1562  /  Folio 394  /  page 44

Joseph and family =

1851 - 7 King Street

Joseph Bryant 32 head , Tannner , all born Bermondsey
Mary do 32
Esther do dau 11
Joseph do son 8
Elizabeth Haley Mother widow 60 (Mary's mother??)

same source as above HO 107 etc

Poss baptism for John

John Bryant bapt 25 Dec 1831  in the parish of St George the Martyr, parents William and Ann Bryant

St George the Martyr register of Bapt. P92 /  GEO   /  item 153


Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 07 September 11 02:42 BST (UK)
There is a burial  I can see for William Cole Bryant

8 July 1849 at Bermondsey St James age 62 which would put his birth year about 1787 ? Does this sound right for your William ??

There is also a Christening for a Wm Bryant Cole  Bryant
baptised 12 Aug 1787 in St Olave, Bermondsey
parents = Thomas and Elizabeth

There is another too

William Bryant baptism 8 October 1786 in St Leonard, Shoreditch with parents William and Ann Bryant
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Wednesday 07 September 11 02:58 BST (UK)
Thats the family that I think he belongs to,John that is.That Bryant family is where my ancestry Lies. 2 other members of that family also emmigrated to the same area in New Zealand, William 1837 and Thomas 1844.The only hitch is that Somerset was listed on his death cert. I am aware that mistakes can be made over continents and time though, thanks  Matt
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Wednesday 07 September 11 03:01 BST (UK)
William Cole Bryant is the head for that family. I have never been able to find a marriage for him and Ann. It would be lovely to do so as It would prove everything
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 07 September 11 03:03 BST (UK)
There is a unassisted passengers list that has John Bryant on it

John Bryant 26 born Great Britain
Departing from London to sydney, New South Wales - 21 September 1859 on the Damascus.

He is listed under the crew thought, not as a passenger.....
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 07 September 11 03:21 BST (UK)
There is a marriage by banns I can see but Corville is spelt Corbel and it is in Middlesex, will post to see what you think and have a little scout around again..
This william was married before as he is a widow...


William Bryant, Widower of this parish and Ann Corbel, spinster of this parish married by banns on the 2nd October 1833 by Robt Dent??, vicar

witnesses were Ruth and George Ackermann

Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Wednesday 07 September 11 03:37 BST (UK)
William Cole Bryant and Ann ? would have to have been married around 1810 as their first child Ann Was born then. She was baptised at Rotherhithe Sy Mary as was Thomas 1811 and William 1813.thanks again for looking into it Matthew
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 07 September 11 23:18 BST (UK)
Sorry, i misunderstood from your first post. I thought I was looking for a Ann Colville as the  wife...

There is a marriage in Rotherfield, Sussex, England  for a William Bryant and Ann Billings 20 March 1808 I can see. Can't see any parents or witnesses though ...
Rotherfield  /   1754  -   1837  /  film  1067280

I can see a christening for a William Bryant 26 Feb 1786 with parents John Bryant and Anne in Rotherfield also. Could this be your William  who married ann Billings??
Rotherfield  /  1764 - 1795  /  film 1067279
Title: Re: Bryant
Post by: turinb on Thursday 08 September 11 00:31 BST (UK)
The family of Ann Colville and William Bryant are the ones I am looking for.The only solid info I have on them is that they had a son John born abt 1833.I suspect it is the Bermondsey family of William Cole Bryant but no solid evidence. I have plenty of info on the Bermondsey family but no marriage record for William and Ann in that family.I have had a pretty good look through the records availible online but have run into a brick wall so was hoping someone on rootschat may have come across the family. I have had a look at Bryants in Sussex before and am pretty sure they dont fit in. thanks again for taking the time to look at it