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Title: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: hidecote on Tuesday 06 September 11 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi, still trying to find where my Uncle is buried.  He is listed in Marine Register, and  with GRO Scotland as dying onborad ship New York 1966. He is from Scotland but I have a lot of history of him, but contact was lost when he moved to Brighton and married 1950's.   Does anyone know why he would be registered in Scotland,  is it because he was born there of whether his relatives brought him to be buried there.  In other words what rules apply when registering a death.  Any advice would be great, My mum, his sister has since died, I now so much need to find where he may be laid to rest to fulfill a promise.

thank you
hidecote
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 06 September 11 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi Hidecote

There is this in the help notes on Scotlands People www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?624

Marine Register (from 1855) includes births and deaths on British-registered merchant vessels at sea, where it appears that one of the childs parents or the deceased was usually resident in Scotland, and deaths at sea of Royal Navy and Royal Marine personnel during wartime, including Royal Naval Reserve, Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve and RNLI.

If contact was lost with him from the 1950s, could he have returned to live in Scotland? This may explain why his death shows on the GROS records. Have you actually looked at the marine register entry? Perhaps an address of usual residence was included.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: hidecote on Wednesday 07 September 11 08:42 BST (UK)
Thanks for that, yes I have the entry for the death, it does give an Isle of Wight address and he was living down on South Coast, Just wondered if the only reason to register with Scotland was if he was to be buried in Scotland or because he was Scottish.  Thanks again, I will be contacting Isle of Wight council.
Cheers Hidecote
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:56 BST (UK)
Hi Hidecote

Wouldn't mind knowing the answer too when you find out  :) Can't think why his death would show on the returns for the GROS rather than the GRO if he was resident on the Isle of Wight.

Monica
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 07 September 11 11:32 BST (UK)
Did he die on route to New York or on the journey back to Britain?

Was Scotland the 1st port on the journey?

Was he a passenger or crew?

Could he be 'buried at sea'?

http://cruiselinehistory.com/?p=561
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: hidecote on Wednesday 07 September 11 17:03 BST (UK)
He was steward on Ocean Monarch to New York.  I have manifests with him on ship,  all I know from the death entry is he died "alongside Pier 97" New York, the New York  Coroner was invloved, cause he has a note attached as to cause of death " heart trouble".  He also worked on Queen Mary, though I never knew him, I have learned so much about his life, I feel I now do know him.  I don't know where he is buried, at sea or not.  I have found that "wall" that I can't get over, there is always a stumbling block isn't there?  Thanks, any advice is appreciated.  I'll update you if I find anything.

Hidecotex
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 07 September 11 17:27 BST (UK)
If he was in port at the time and the coroner was involved then surely he will be buried in New York.

Have you posted a request on the US section of RC?
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: hidecote on Wednesday 07 September 11 18:16 BST (UK)
hi, did not we had a U S section. Have tried to look up equivalent records is usa but find it bit confusing, but will have a go.  Thanks
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: 99melanies on Friday 06 February 15 12:19 GMT (UK)
that is my dad,
my mum was Betty and i still live in Brighton.
your mum Margaret was my aunty and she worked at the queen's velvet paper factory and sent me some for Christmas every year.
mum die in september which is why i just looked up my dad?
how strange

Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: 99melanies on Friday 06 February 15 12:21 GMT (UK)
that is my dad,
my mum was Betty and i still live in Brighton.
your mum Margaret was my aunty and she worked at the queen's velvet paper factory and sent me some for Christmas every year.
mum die in september which is why i just looked up my dad?
how strange
Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: 99melanies on Friday 06 February 15 12:22 GMT (UK)
that is my dad,
my mum was Betty and i still live in Brighton.
your mum Margaret was my aunty and she worked at the queen's velvet paper factory and sent me some for Christmas every year.
mum die in september which is why i just looked up my dad?
how strange
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Title: Re: G.R.O. Scotland where is he buried?
Post by: loobylooayr on Friday 06 February 15 13:42 GMT (UK)
Hi 99Melaines,
Welcome to Rootschat  :)
I don't know if you noticed but hidecote posted this query in Sept 2011. He/She should be notified by email from Rootschat that there has been a new post to his/her thread if his/her email is still active.
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