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Title: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Tuesday 06 September 11 04:01 BST (UK)
Hello Rootschatters! I need your help!  I have found Henry D. FURNESS, age 40, born in Ponteland, NBL in the 1871 census living with his wife, Mary and their 4 children in Whickham, Co. Durham.  Sadly, I believe that Henry died in 1876 as Mary is a widow in the 1881 census.  My problem is that I cannot find a baptism for Henry D. Furness in the IGI nor can I seem to find him in the 1841 or 1851 census. (I think Henry and his wife married 17 July 1862 in the "British Church" in Riga, Latvia (Russia on the censuses).  Can anyone find Henry's baptism or him in any census before he married?
Thank you kindly! Pat
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 06 September 11 04:13 BST (UK)
Hi Pat, there is this Henry Furness on the 1841 Census

John Furness 45 occ Clergyman
Mary 45 Not born in County
Sarah 15
John 14
Mary 12
HENRY 10
Matthew 7
Residing at Vicarage, Dinington, Mason, Ponteland, Northumberland
Census Ref HO107/820/ 9/5/ 16

In 1861 John M 24 Mary S 22 and Matthew W 17 are at the School House, Dunchurch, Rugby, Warwickshire Census Ref HO107/2070/204/16 John M is a BA Curate of Dunchurch and Headmaster of the Endwed School.

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 06 September 11 13:49 BST (UK)
  My problem is that I cannot find a baptism for Henry D. Furness in the IGI

Don't forget the Bishops Transcripts, which are online  ;)

Baptism at Ponteland, 9th July 1830
Henry David, son of the Rev'd John Robson & Mary Furnass, Bell Villa Ponteland. Father's occupation clergyman. Baptism performed by Jno Furnass, Curate.
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11593-40005-13?cc=1309819&wc=11540214

Jennifer
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Tuesday 06 September 11 14:49 BST (UK)
Hello JenB and keyboard 86!   YES!!!!! You have found them!   ;D  Thank you ever so much!   Pat
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 06 September 11 14:55 BST (UK)
Sadly, I believe that Henry died in 1876 as Mary is a widow in the 1881 census.

According to this link (which also gives Henry's birth date) Henry died in Marseilles in 1880.
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/familytree?uid=abbiejack&surname=Furness
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 06 September 11 14:59 BST (UK)
There is loads of biographical information about him here http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ewv/
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Tuesday 06 September 11 15:47 BST (UK)
Wow JenB!!!   VERY good news, indeed!  Many of this family and their collateral marriages tied in earlier with the locomotive Stephensons in the North East.  From everything I/you have found so far, it appears that their civil engineering feats spread all over the UK and parts of continental Europe. Again, I am seriously in your debt! Pat

PS - the link appears broken   :'(
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 06 September 11 16:07 BST (UK)
MR. HENRY DAVID FURNESS, the second son of the Rev. John Robson Furness, Vicar of Dinnington, Northumberland, was born in 1830, and was educated at the collegiate school, Leicester. In July 1847 he was apprenticed for four years to Messrs. Robert Stephenson and Co., of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, but for one year of this time worked in the erecting shop of Messrs. Robert Napier and Sons, Glasgow. From September 1853 he was for two years Chief Engineer on board steamers belonging to the Steam Navigation Company of the Two Sicilies. he next obtained an appointment in the Turkish navy as engineer during the Crimean war, after which he became sub-manager of the works at Messrs. Robert Stephenson and Co.’s factory under the late Mr. William Weallens, M. Inst. C.E. He subsequently went to Russia as locomotive superintendent on the Riga-Diinaburg railway, and continued there after the amalgamation of that line with the Diinaburg and Witepsk, until the year 1869. He then accepted the post of locomotive superintendent on the Orel-Witepsk railway ; but the work and the climate told so severely on his health that he was obliged to return to England in 1870.
After a rest of a few months he recovered sufficiently to occupy himself in the invention of a lubricator for locomotive cylinders, which is now extensively used both at home and abroad. He also carried on business at Newcastle as a consulting engineer. He had been to Suez on professional business, and was on his way home when he died at Marseilles, of liver complaint and heart disease, after an illness of only ten days, on the 2nd of November, 1880. Mr. Furness was elected a Member of the Institution on the 5th of March, 1867. He was possessed of an eminently mechanical turn of mind, had clear judgment and great uprightness of character, and his amiable temper earned for him the confidence of all with whom he was brought into contact, professionally and privately.
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 06 September 11 16:14 BST (UK)
In July 1847 he was apprenticed for four years to Messrs. Robert Stephenson and Co., of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, but for one year of this time worked in the erecting shop of Messrs. Robert Napier and Sons, Glasgow[/color].

I suspect this explains why I couldn't find him in the English census of 1851 - it looks like he was in Scotland!

33 Cadogan Street, Barony, Lanarkshire

Henry Furness, 20, Lodger, Engineer Fitter, born England.
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Tuesday 06 September 11 16:36 BST (UK)
Hello again JenB!  This is just fantastic information!!!!!  It does explain what he was doing in Russia, among other things! Profuse thanks to you!   ;D  Pat
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: jmichaeltaylor on Wednesday 07 September 11 17:41 BST (UK)
I suspect you will already realise that William Weallens was a family member and helped Henry get an apprentaceship at Robert Stephenson and company.

"The Rev. John Furness , of Ponteland, in 1822.  William Weallens was born, on the 8th of March, 1823 and subsequently received his education under Dr. Cowan, of the Grange, Bishopwearmouth .

His mother, who was widowed in 1828, subsequently married William Hutchinson who had joined Robert Stephenson and Co.  when the engine works was set up in 1823 and become works manager. It was probably Hutchinson who identified William’s potential as a mechanical engineer and enabled him to become a pupil of his stepfather on 3rd September 1838 apprenticed to Robert Stephenson and Co".

See ponthistsoc.freeuk.com - "Who was William Weallens"
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Wednesday 07 September 11 20:48 BST (UK)
Hello jmichaeltaylor! Thank you so much for your input into this family!  ;D  NOW, I am really wondering if the William Weallens you refer to is a son of the marriage of Mary Furness and John Weallans who were married in 1822 in Ponteland....... My tie into this entire conglomerate family is the Robert Nicholson, born 1808, who was one of Mr. Stephenson's engineers.  ANY and ALL comments are greatly appreciated!  Again, sincerest thanks!  Pat
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 07 September 11 22:30 BST (UK)
Hi Pat, can only help with any census info but this looks like the 2 Williams in 1841:-

William Weallans 18 occ Engineer
William Hutchinson 49 occ Engineer
They are in the Household of Joseph and Mary Castles and family.
Residing at Warkworth, Northumberland
Joseph is an Inn Keeper
Census ref HO107/836/ 12/5/ 4
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Thursday 08 September 11 00:09 BST (UK)
Hello keyboard86!  Thank you for the additional information.  Every bit helps on putting the puzzle pieces together!   ;D  Pat
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: jmichaeltaylor on Thursday 08 September 11 19:57 BST (UK)
Now thats put the "cat amongst the pigeons"- I don't want to confuse this Furness forum with Weallens but this might help - Mary Furness did indeed marry John Weallens in 1922. William Weallens was born on 8th March 1823. Mary was widowed in 1828 and then married William Hutchinson manager of Rbt Stephenson and Co works. Hutchinson got William a start at the locomotive works and ultimately Weallens got Henry D Furness a start at works. BUT I'm facinated about the Rbt Nicholson connection - but thats not for this forum - can a thread be started elsewhere?   

I assume you know about the memorial tablets to the 2 Furness clergy which are on the chancel arch of St Mary's Ponteland- I have photos
Title: Re: Henry D. Furness b. abt 1831 Ponteland?
Post by: patrexjax on Thursday 08 September 11 20:04 BST (UK)
Hello jmichaeltaylor! Now that you have 4 posts on Rootschat, you can send and receive PM (personal messages)...Yes, we need to delve into my Nicholson's on a separate thread, if need be!  Watch for my PM!!    ;D   Pat