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Title: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Monday 05 September 11 20:41 BST (UK)
I've just come across some postcards sent by my grandfather to his father during WW1. He was born in Wrexham on 17th Oct 1894 but was living in Chester in 1911 and after the war. The first postcard was of Knaphill in Surrey but had a Pirbright Camp postmark and dated May 1915. The next one was dated July 1915 and said he was at sea on active service. The next 2 were from hospitals in Malta and dated Oct & Nov 1915, and the final one from Bagshot Park. I have a photo of him in uniform (attached) with sergeant's stripes but no service number. I'm fairly certain he must have been in the 8th Battalion of the Cheshire Regiment, but I'd love to know his service record and the reason for him being hospitalised
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Shep on Monday 05 September 11 23:31 BST (UK)
Have you contacted the Cheshire Regiment museum:

http://www.cheshiremilitarymuseum.co.uk/museum-services/research.aspx

regards

Shep
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Monday 05 September 11 23:53 BST (UK)
Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.

BTW, I notice you have Chaloner on your list of surnames. Yesterday I was doing some research into Sarah Jane Eaves who married Frederick Charles Chaloner in Chester in 1905. Is that in your tree?
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 06 September 11 08:55 BST (UK)
The only one I can see that is perhaps close has an address of 16 Stanlow Cottages, Ellesemere Port.
12th Batt. Cheshire Regiment.  ???
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Tuesday 06 September 11 09:34 BST (UK)
Unfortunately that's not him. He was living in Gough Court off Northgate St in Chester at the time.
I don't have access to Ancestry, but on the free search I did see a William S Bradshaw in the medals section. Do you have access to that?
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 06 September 11 09:47 BST (UK)
Not likely.
William S. Bradshaw
Army Cyclist Corps 3757 & South Wales Borderers 42128.
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Tuesday 06 September 11 10:19 BST (UK)
Did you mean to write William S Bradshaw?
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 06 September 11 10:21 BST (UK)
Yes :o
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Scottiedog on Tuesday 06 September 11 11:25 BST (UK)
Hi - I'm no expert, so this may not be a valid comment, but here goes anyway. I hope it's helpful.

I don't recognise that cap badge as a Cheshire Regiment badge. Have you researched it? I've attached a photo of my grandfather's cap badge. Here's a link to the badge on Wikipedia and another to what I take to be a WW1 badge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cheshire-Cap-Badge.jpg

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=162666

My grandfather was in the 1/4th Cheshires during WW1. I visited and contacted the regimental museum in Chester. They tried but weren't very helpful. My grandfather also sailed to the Med with his battalion in mid 1915 to take part in the Dardinelles campaign. Perhaps that's where your grandfather was heading. Mine ended up in hospital in Alexandria to recover from disentry, but that was after months at Gallipoli.

HTH
Les
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Tuesday 06 September 11 11:37 BST (UK)
I agree with Scottiedog, not like a Cheshire cap badge.

The cap badge to me looks like the South Wales Borderers.
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Tuesday 06 September 11 12:44 BST (UK)
I take your point about the cap badge, but why would someone living in Chester join the South Wales Borderers? Maybe because he was born in Wrexham, but usually men volunteered with their friends to be together in a local regiment. Checking the regimental records, the 4th (Service) Battalion of the Borderers was in Cirencester until June 29th 1915 when it moved to Woking - this doesn't tie in with the date on my first postcard. It did however embark from Avonmouth to Mudros, arriving on July 12th - this could tie in with the second postcard.

The other option is that the photo is actually of my grandfather's brother John Thomas Bradshaw who was born in Wrexham in 1896, but also living at Gough Court in Chester at the start of the war.   
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Shep on Tuesday 06 September 11 21:24 BST (UK)
From the soldiers in my tree who lived in Chester, they either enlisted in the Royal Welch Fusiliers or the Cheshire Regiment.

There is a medal index card for a Private John Thomas Bradshaw who was in both the Cheshire Regiment (39278) and the Lancashire Regiment (64643). There is also a note on the bottom of the card 'S.W.B . list J/863' - anyone know what that means?
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: Colin D Gronow on Wednesday 07 September 11 08:10 BST (UK)
Silver War Badge
Title: Re: William Samuel Bradshaw WW1 Cheshire regiment
Post by: GMB2010 on Wednesday 07 September 11 10:04 BST (UK)
The cap badge on my photo isn't Royal Welsh Fusiliers or Cheshire Regiment.

I've made a research request to the Cheshire Regiment Museum as I'm still fairly certain from the postcards that my grandfather was in the Cheshires. However, I'm now thinking that the photo is of his brother John Thomas Bradshaw who was described as a soldier on his marriage certificate in 1916.