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Title: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 19:47 BST (UK)
I have tried so many times to start my family Tree, but failed to get even a start...I dont think my parents existed!!!!  I have used ancestry.com, and others..not one of them have any of my relatives on their database. Has anyone any suggestions? My mothers surname was Smith...not an easy start I know, but even my dads name isnt there, although that isnt a common one.

Thankyou in anticipation of replies.

Forbern  ???
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: cati on Thursday 01 September 11 19:51 BST (UK)
Do you have your parents' marriage certificate? This will give their ages, which will enable you to find their birth certificates.
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 01 September 11 19:52 BST (UK)
Welcome toRootsChat
First steps in researching your family history http://www.rootschat.com/links/0euc/
Starting with yourself, note all the dates and events you are certain of about your immediate family and work back generation by generation.
Birth, marriage and death certificates will give you vital information to help you continue your research. For example, a mother’s maiden name shown on a birth certificate will help you find a marriage certificate. The marriage certificate will usually provide you with the names of both the father of the groom and the father of the bride. You can then use this information to search the next generation in your family tree.


Stan
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 September 11 19:52 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Firstly - we are not allowed to post any information pertaining to any living person.  Can you confirm whether both your parents are living or deceased?

If deceased - can you give us the following details:

Your mothers full christian names, birthdate and birth county.  Was Smith her birth maiden name?

Same information for your father

When did your parents marry and where?

Do you know the names etc of your maternal and paternal grandparents?

If so - same info as for your parents
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: CelticAnnie on Thursday 01 September 11 19:57 BST (UK)
Hello -- and welcome!  :D

Do you have ANY surviving older relatives at all that you could talk to who could fill in at least some names for you, to get you started on your tree?  If they live a long way from you, you could always write to them/phone them to explain your interest and see if they would be willing to help you with what they know.
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 20:13 BST (UK)
Thanks for replies. Yes, my parents are both dead. My mother was Jeannie Smith, born 12/9/1913. She was born at Penwortham, Lancashire. She died in Bridlington Oct,at 82 years old.

My dad was born in Simla, India, when his father was in services there. he was born on 29/10.1911. His name was Eric arthur Munton. They married in year 1934 at Skipton, Yorkshire registry office (I think). he died at Nelson, Lancashire 1959.

My mother's mum, was Sarah Lilian Price (I think). She was born about 1897 ish. My grandad was Harry or Henry Smith (lots of them). Not sure where they was born. Earby, near Skipton, Yorkshire I think she was, I dont know about him.

My dad's mother was born in York. Yorkshire as Edna Danby. Dont know when. My grandfather was Frederck Munton, but dont know where he was born. he died at Earby Near Skipton about 1947 ish. She died maybe about 1950's but dont know where.

Sarah Meyer(Maiden name) was my great grandmother on mothers side. (Not sure if this is correct spelling. She died at Laneshawbridge in about 1948/9 ish. She married Mr Price maybe they were married at earby. Skipton Yorkshire

This as as far as I know...I cant find any reference to anyone during my searches.

Thanks for your assistance

Forbern :-\
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 20:15 BST (UK)
Hello -- and welcome!  :D

Do you have ANY surviving older relatives at all that you could talk to who could fill in at least some names for you, to get you started on your tree?  If they live a long way from you, you could always write to them/phone them to explain your interest and see if they would be willing to help you with what they know.


I am 72, and have only one living ,older relative in USA. I have stated all I know about my relatives. I cant even find myself!!  :o
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:23 BST (UK)
I suspect that this is your parents marriage:
Eric A Munton mar Jeannie S Price
Dec qtr 1934 skipton 9a 81
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 20:26 BST (UK)
I suspect that this is your parents marriage:
Eric A Munton mar Jeannie S Price
Dec qtr 1934 skipton 9a 81


Yesssss!!! That is it. Where did you find that please?  I wasnt aware of her having another name beginning with 's'. Thankyou Spidermonkey ((hugs))
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:26 BST (UK)
And perhaps your mother's birth reg:
Jeannie S Price, mothers maiden name Price
Dec qtr 1913 Preston 8e 894

This suggests that perhaps your grandparents were not married when your mother was born.  Getting this birth cert would confirm the names of your grandparents.
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:28 BST (UK)
I suspect that this is your parents marriage:
Eric A Munton mar Jeannie S Price
Dec qtr 1934 skipton 9a 81
Yesssss!!! That is it. Where did you find that please?  I wasnt aware of her having another name beginning with 's'. Thankyou Spidermonkey ((hugs))
I used the database on ancestry.  I am guessing that perhaps her 'S' name might be Smith
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:31 BST (UK)
There is a marriage between a Sarah E Price and Henry Smith in Preston Sept qt 1914 8e 1309
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: cati on Thursday 01 September 11 20:34 BST (UK)
This is a possibility for Edna Danby's birth:
Mar 1913   
Denby  Edna  (mother's maiden name Windle) GRO ref:  Burnley  8e 297

Cati
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 20:37 BST (UK)
There is a marriage between a Sarah E Price and Henry Smith in Preston Sept qt 1914 8e 1309

This will be correct too. Have you got all this from Ancestry.com?
Thanks
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:40 BST (UK)
There is a marriage between a Sarah E Price and Henry Smith in Preston Sept qt 1914 8e 1309

This will be correct too. Have you got all this from Ancestry.com?
Thanks

Erm, I think that one I found using freebmd - I quite often have a couple of windows open at the sametime - one with ancestry and the other with freebmd
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 20:45 BST (UK)
This is a possibility for Edna Danby's birth:
Mar 1913   
Denby  Edna  (mother's maiden name Windle) GRO ref:  Burnley  8e 297

Cati


Edna Danby was my dads mother who at the time of his birth was Edna Munton, living in Simla, India with grandad serving in armed forces there. I think the one you have found is not the right one. She had a sister called Agnes, Danby who married a ???? Dodsworth.
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:47 BST (UK)
Death for Frederick Munton in 1948, Dec qtr Staincliffe 2d 341.  Aged 64, so birthdate of 1884
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:49 BST (UK)
We can't do look ups of the 1911 census, but looking at the free index there is a Frederick Munton in the overseas military.

It looks as if the national archives also have some records of his military career
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Spidermonkey on Thursday 01 September 11 20:57 BST (UK)
1901 census for Frederick Munton with family RG13; Piece: 2846; Folio: 95; Page: 39
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: cath151 on Thursday 01 September 11 20:57 BST (UK)
hi,
There are 4 images on www.findmypast.co.uk in British Army Service records for a Frederick Munton born 1884, Coventry.
He served in india and was discharged in India on 31-10-1911
It mentions his marriage to Edna Ann Danby.
 Cathy :)
Modified  sorry  I meant Edith Ann, not Edna,
Title: Re: Newbie searching for ancestors
Post by: Forbern on Thursday 01 September 11 21:18 BST (UK)
hi,
There are 4 images on www.findmypast.co.uk in British Army Service records for a Frederick Munton born 1884, Coventry.
He served in india and was discharged in India on 31-10-1911
It mentions his marriage to Edna Ann Danby.
 Cathy :)
Modified  sorry  I meant Edith Ann, not Edna,


WOW!!! You two girls have taught me more about my relatives than I have ever known. Thankyou so much. I really do aoppreciate it. I shall try and . info, and send it to my sister who also is 'in the dark'. :)