RootsChat.Com
Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: madjelly on Wednesday 31 August 11 14:30 BST (UK)
-
I am looking for information on Thomas Rourke or O'rourke believed to have been born in Wicklow about 1859 (as per Census 1901). He married Mary Byrne from Carlow and their first child John James was born in Co Carlow abt 1896. The family then moved to Athy Co Kildare where the next 5 children were born :- James born abt 1900, Patrick born abt 1903, Hugh Francis born abt 1905, Elizabeth born abt 1907 and Michael Born abt 1910.
I believe Thomas to be my Great Grandfather. Any information on any of the family would be greatly appreciated. :)
-
Thomas's birth is just before the start of full civil registration in 1864, so you would need to check parish records for a baptism for him. Do you have any idea what part of Wicklow (i.e. parish) he was born ?
Do you have a marriage cert for Thomas and Mary ?
This would show their father's names and occupations which would be useful clues when checking any baptisms you may locate later..
Shane
-
....
I believe Thomas to be my Great Grandfather.
....
just wondering about this detail.... have you already connected this Thomas and Mary to your direct known ancestor with marriage and birth certs ?
Shane
-
I am looking for information on Thomas Rourke or O'rourke believed to have been born in Wicklow about 1859 (as per Census 1901). He married Mary Byrne from Carlow and their first child John James was born in Co Carlow abt 1896. The family then moved to Athy Co Kildare where the next 5 children were born :- James born abt 1900, Patrick born abt 1903, Hugh Francis born abt 1905, Elizabeth born abt 1907 and Michael Born abt 1910.
I believe Thomas to be my Great Grandfather. Any information on any of the family would be greatly appreciated. :)
hi madjelly. i am looking up the same family from athy canal side kildare. my husband's grandmother was mary rourke born in 1906 . her mother was mary burns on parsonstown co carlow. although mary spelled her name byrne on her marriage cert. i found a match for her parents in family search org. they were married in 1888 in parsonstown. eldest child john joseph was born in parsonstown 1886 to 1888. i am going to get marriage cert this week. i will look for cert for john joseph. good luck
-
hey Meda, thanks for that bit of information, it's great to finally get something new to go on, as I had hit a wall trying to find more info, thats def something to go on. I would really appreciate if you would let me know if you find anything. Thanks :)
-
hi just checked the dates for the marriage of mary and thomes it was 1885 not 1888. i will ask marys daughter if she knows anything about john joseph
-
hi madjelly i have been to the gro in dublin. sorry to say the marriage i was looking for did not match thomas and mary. but did find birth for john joseph' he was born on the 14 jan 1885 in fenagh and myshell co carlow..and his brother hugh francis born 23march 1895 athy kildare.mary byrne mother was born in ballon ballon carlow. marys mother was 60 years in 1901 lived in ballon. john joseph was known as joey to the family. he was a lock keeper on the grand canal in athy. he also ran for election with his father thomas on 15 jan 1920. we cant seem to find them in the 1911 census. thomas died in athy. mary moved to dublin lived with family. she was burried in athy with thomas around 1945. we believe joey lived all his life in athy. there are a few stories of the rourke o'rourkes in frank taffes athy eye on the past. you will find thomas grandson's email there . mary's mother name is ann byrne. i will keep searching for marriage cert. hope that helps
-
hi found the marriage of thomas rourke to mary byrne in dublin st james church married on the 21 feb 1884. mary's father james byrne' thomas father also james . bestman m farrell. bridesmaid ellen hayden.looked up births for mary byrne in familysearch org its free' found mary born in 1864. mother's name anne hayden.mary was born in fenagh and myshell carlow.she also had a brother john born 3 oct 1865. sister elizabeth born 1868. i will keep searching best of luck
-
Thomas Rourke and Mary Byrne were my great grandparents.they had eight children,the younger two being Dennis and Mai.they lived at the Harbour in Athy. It was my understanding that Thomas was the lock keeper until his death in approx 1933.He is buried in the Thomas Moran family plot,Thomas Moran was his son in law and his wife Lizzie died about six months before her dad Thomas Rourke.Mary had to vacate the Harbour after Thomas's death but was offered a house in her sons name Tom in Inchicore the 5th lock.Mary was devoted to her husband and he was affectionately known to the family as Da.Mary moved to Dublin but brought with her some of the children who had been left motherless by the death of Lizzie, my mother was one of the children raised by her Granny. The lock house was taken over in due time by Mai and her husband,and Mary having moved a couple of times settled in a flat in James street where she died in 1947. Mary is buried in Athy with her husband Thomas her daughter Lizzie and some other members of the Moran side.The sons married,Paddy to Mag Haslem. Tom to Janey Brown. Joe to Mag Leary. Fran to Katie Cunningham.Mick to Annie Carpenter,Jim to Mary King, Dinny to Julia O Brien, Mai to Dan O Brien.Eliz to Tommy Moran.Some of the lads lived in Dublin to work but went home to Athy the week end,some settled in Dublin.Mick Jim and Dinny had no children.Some of the lads names are in the heritage centre in Athy as they were active during the troubles.
Edit: I stand corrected regarding Da,my brother phoned me to say Da was a stablesman the stables were in fact over near the Harbour,Perhaps he worked on the lock along with the stables? And I just want to say there is a photo of Granny in a Island of Ireland book at the heritage centre in Athy.
-
Can you provide any information on the parent's of Thomas?
-
hi found the marriage of thomas rourke to mary byrne in dublin st james church married on the 21 feb 1884. mary's father james byrne' thomas father also james . bestman m farrell. bridesmaid ellen hayden.looked up births for mary byrne in familysearch org its free' found mary born in 1864. mother's name anne hayden.mary was born in fenagh and myshell carlow.she also had a brother john born 3 oct 1865. sister elizabeth born 1868. i will keep searching best of luck
Hi Meda. I would like more about the parents and grandparents of Thomas & Mary. DNA tells me I am related to five of their decendants. Do you have any more information.
-
I know this conversation is a more than a decade old, but I would love to hear from any contributor who has more information about the ancestors of Thomas and Mary. I would be happy to receive a PM, if you wish to reach out.
-
I know this conversation is a more than a decade old, but I would love to hear from any contributor who has more information about the ancestors of Thomas and Mary. I would be happy to receive a PM, if you wish to reach out.
Hi, sent you a PM regarding Rourke/Byrne. I have done a tree for a descendant of Thomas and Mary some years ago.Its the same family as mentioned by Etobin bar they have the incorrect wife for Paddy Rourke.
-
Hi Stiofan,
Are you the same Stiofan I've been chatting to via email?
Siobhan.