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I'm having difficulty finding information about a Lawrence Heaton, born abt. 1893 in Prescot, St Helens. If its possible, could someone check him out for me, please? I'm looking especially for siblings, parents, grandparents, but anything that would help.
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Hi Tea Time,
This is the only one I could find;
1901 Census
83 Oldfield St
St Helens, Lancashire
RG13/3520/89/14
John HEATON, 40, Head, Mar, Glass Blower
Sarah A, 34, Wife, Mar
Lambert, 13, Son
James, 9, Son
LAWRENCE, 7, Son
Albert, 3, Son
John, 1, Son
John FORSTER, 48, Lodger, Mar, Gardener
All born St Helens, Lancashire
Do you have his Marriage Cert to confirm his Fathers name and Occp?
1891 census they are at same address, John is a Glass Labourer and they have a another Child who does not appear on 1901 Census ELIZ age 4 and also Lambert is there aged 3.
Trish :)
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MARRIAGE:
25 Dec 1884 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
John HEATON - 25, Glass-maker, Bachelor of Prescot
Sarah Ann THOMPSON - 18 Spinster of Prescot
Groom's Father: PETER Heaton, Glass-maker
Bride's Father: LAWRENCE Thompson, Watch-maker
Witness: L Thompson; Margaret Thompson, (X)
(Source Lancashire OPC)
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I can go back further with this Family but need to confirm what info post 1893 you have for Lawrence.
You need Lawrences Marriage Cert and then his Birth Cert.
Do you have them?
JOHN Heatons Parents seem to be PETER Heaton and Elizabeth FOSTER who Married 1859
PETER Heatons Parents appear to be WILLIAM Heaton and Margaret SIXSMITH who Married 1814.
Of course all this needs to be confirmed yet.
Trish :)
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Trish, first of all, thanks ever so for your help.
I have a birth certificate for Lawrence Heaton, and it shows him to have been born at 83 Oldfield Street. His father is shown as John Heaton, and mother as Sarah Ann Heaton, formerly Thompson.
It seems as though this is the correct one, but as you say, it all needs confirming.
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Looks like it has been confirmed ;D
I will post up other info I have found later.
Trish :)
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1891 Census
Windle, St Helens, Lancashire
RG12/3018/110/32
John HEATON, 32, Head, Mar, Glass Labourer
Sarah, 24, Wife, Mar
Eliz, 4, Daug
Lambert, 3, Son
All born St Helens
1881 Census
36 Albert St,
Windle, St Helens, Lancashire
RG11/3731/78/45
Peter HEATON, 44, Head, Mar, Labourer, born St Helens
Elizabeth, 42, Wife, Mar, born St Helens
JOHN, 21, Son, Unm, Labourer, born St Helens
William, 19, Son, Unm, Labourer, born St Helens
Mary Anne ATHERTON, 11, Adopted Child, Scholar, born St Helens
Peter WHITTLE, 21, Lodger, Unm, Fireman, born Widnes
1871 Census
St Helens, Windle,
Lancashire
RG10/386277/47
Kate FOSTER, 65, Head, Widow, Housekeeper
Henry Foster, 29, Son, Unm, Coal Miner
Sarah Foster, 22, Daug, Unm
Elizabeth HEATON, 32, Daug, Mar
JOHN Heaton, 11, Grandson, Scholar
William Heaton, 9, Grandson, Scholar
Catherine H ATHERTON, 24, Daug, Mar, Glass? (cant make out)
Mary Atherton, 1, GrandDaug
All born St Helens
1861 Census
St Helen, Lancashire
RG9/2751/120/19
Peter HEATON, 24, Head, Mar
Elizabeth Heaton, 21, Wife, Mar
JOHN Heaton, 1, Son
All born St Helens or Parr
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Especially the 1871 census results has given me quite a bit to chew on. I'm assuming that Peter Heaton died somewhere between 1861 and 1871. Others seem to have disappeared also. A mining accident perhaps, given the area?
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MARRIAGE;
27 Mar 1859 St Thomas, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Peter HEATON- (X), 21 Collier Bachelor of Eccleston
Elizabeth FOSTER - (X), 20 Spinster of Eccleston
Groom's Father: WILLIAM Heaton, Collier
Bride's Father: JOHN Foster, Collier
Witness: Joseph Heaton, (X); Ann Foster, (X)
(Source Lancs OPC)
1851 Census
Upper Parr St,
Parr, Lancashire
HO107/2195/366/42
Margaret HEATON, 58, Head, Widow, Lodging House Keeper, born Windle
Jane Heaton, 21, Daug, Unm, Glass Smoother, born St Helens
Joseph Heaton, 18, Son, Unm, Collier Drawer, born Parr
PETER Heaton, 13, Son, Galloway Driver, born Parr
Robert Heaton, 9, Son, Scholar, born Parr
+ several Lodgers
1841 Census
Prescot, Lancashire
HO107/516/9/Prescot
William HEATON, 45, Collier
Margaret, 45
Thos, 25, Collier
James, 20, Collier
John, 14
Jane, 10
Joseph, 6
PETER, 4
Robt, 1mth
All born in County
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No, Peter is still alive in 1871 as he appears in 1881 Census. Also Eliz is down as Mar in 1871.
He may have been just working away from home and Elizabeth is staying with her Mother.
I havent really looked for him in 1871 as I have been going back with his Family.
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This is a possible for William/Margaret;
MARRIAGE:
13 Feb 1814 St Mary The Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William HEATON - (X), Collier Bachelor of This Parish
Margaret SIXSMITH - (X), Spinster of This Parish
Witness: Thomas Heaton, (X); Hannah Morgan, (X)
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1881 Census
12 Edward St
Eccleston in Prescot, Lancashire
Lawerance THOMPSON, 49, Head, Mar, Watch Maker, born Southport
Ann, 50, Wife, Mar, born Wavertree
Elizabeth, 20, Daug, Unm, Charwoman, born St Helens
Emma, 8, Daug, Scholar, born St Helens
Thos ASHTON, 52, Boarder, Unm, Labourer, born St Helens
John BELLARD, 30, Boarder, Unm, Painter, born Wavertree
1871 Census
St Helen, Lancashire
RG10/3864/119/77
Lawrence THOMSON, 38, Head, Mar, Watch ? Maker, born Southport
Ann, 40, Wife, Mar, born Liverpool
Mary J, 13, Daug, Scholar
Lawrence, 12, Son, Scholar
Elizabeth, 10, Daug, Scholar
Margaret, 8, Daug, Scholar
SARAH, 10, Daug, Scholar
Alice, 7mths, Daug
All Children born St Helens
John BELLARD, 19, Lodger, Unm, Tailor, born Liverpool
James SHERRET, 20, Lodger, Unm, Occp cant read, born Prescot
Francis HEWETT, 30, Lodger, Unm, Occp cant read, born Prescot
1861 at 4 Edward St we have;
Lawrence THOMPSON, 27, Watch Pinion Maker
Ann, 28
Mary Jane, 3
Lawrence, 2
Eliza, 2mths
RG9/2750/78/61
Marriage from FreeBMD;
Lawrence THOMPSON, Sept 1856, Prescot, 8b 813
On the same page is Ann BALLARD
1851 Census LAWRENCE is a watch Maker age 16 with Parents JOHN/MARY and 1841 they are under Thompsen. Father John is a Joiner.
Trish :)
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A couple of interesting things there. In the 1871 census is Sarah, aged 10. Which would give an approx. birth date of 1861. Earlier we have a Sarah Ann, shown on the 1901 census as being 34, which would give an approx birth date as 1867.
I'm not sure I can understand this. Are these two sisters or a generation apart?
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Hi,
Trish is offline so I just checked the 1871 census which is very faint. Sarah is aged 4 not 10.
Mo
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Thanks for that Mo :)
Thanks what happens when I post late at night!
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A little update on this. From the information given, I have been able to trace that Lawrence was one of a total of 14 children born to John and Sarah Ann. Six of these died early, which of course left eight. Of these, one spouse is confirmed. I have probables to five of the others. The remaining two seem to have disappeared from radar....!
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A Peter Heaton was buried at St Helens Cemetery 21 June 1910 aged 73
Regards
John
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Thats the same Peter Heaton that is in my tree. Thanks for the info.
As regards the children of John Heaton, what would be the easiest way to trace their children? I do know some, but by no means all. As far as I am aware, they have all passed away bar one.
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My maternal grandmother was Elizabeth Heaton from St Helens and I have found her prayer book which indicates that she lived at 35, Albert Square, Cowley Hill. In the back of the book is a list of names, presumably Heatons, giving their birth dates. This includes Lawrence who was born on the 14th October 1893. It also gives "Lawrence reg 3836 3/5 South Lancs" maybe his military service number. There is also the birthdates "Father 1st October 1860" and "Mother 23rd March 1867" Also birthdates for Lambert, James, Albert, John, Stanley, Herbert and Alfred though it does not say that these are Heatons. Please contact me if I can be of further help.
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Lawrence Heaton attested 22 May 1915 in St Helens as number 3836 in 3/5th Bn South Lancashire Regiment. His home address is given as Atherton Street, St Helens - unable to read number.
He was renumbered as 241480 sometime during WW1 and was demobilised as acting corporal 18 March 1919. Home address given as 68 Atherton Street, St Helens.
John