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Title: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Monday 29 August 11 21:07 BST (UK)
Hi
Looking for information on my Great Great Grandfather.

His service records give some conflicting information and indicate he was born around 1853/54 in Adam & Eve parish Dublin.
He had (or was) serving in the Royal Longford Militia.
His next of kin (mother) was recorded as C. Keating of Saxon Place in June 1876 when he enlisted in the British Army aged 22.
He served in the East Indies from Nov 1876 to May 1882
From June to August 1882 he joined the Army reserve in Dublin District
He re-enlisted in the Durham Light Infantry in August 1882 until June 1889.

His intended place of residence on final discharge was recorded as 22 Bridge street, Dublin (however, I can't determine whether this was recorded at enlistment in 1876, when he finished his first spell in 1882 or his final discharge in 1889.

On his wedding certificate his father (also Edward) was recorded as a Hatter (deceased) in Feb 1886

Can anyone help finding his birthplace, date and his parents records?

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 29 August 11 21:18 BST (UK)
I've never heard of a parish (RC or Civil) in Dublin city or County named 'Adam & Eve'



Shane
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Monday 29 August 11 21:25 BST (UK)
Hi Shane

Thanks for the reply.

I believe it was the Church of the Immaculate Conception in Merchants Quay (from Google)

Mike
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 29 August 11 21:30 BST (UK)
I dont believe that was a parish church though.. maybe a chapel of ease to one of the southside parishes - maybe SS. Michael & St. John



Shane
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 29 August 11 21:44 BST (UK)
In 1852 it's listed between numbers 4 and 5 Merchant's Quay as :

  Entrance to Franciscan Convent or Adam & Eve Chapel

here's a full list of the city parishes from that time :

No.ParishLocation of Church
1St. AndrewWestland Row
2St. AudoenHigh Street
3St. CatherineMeath Street
4St. JamesJames's Street
5St. MaryMarlborough Street
6St. Michael & St. JohnExchange Street
7St. MichanNorth Anne Street/Halston  St
8St. Nicholas (Without)Francis Street
9St. PaulArran Quay

 
Shane
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Monday 29 August 11 21:48 BST (UK)
Thanks Shane

Are these Church records online by any chance?


Mike
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 29 August 11 21:51 BST (UK)
Records for SS Michael & John, and some of the others on the list above, are included on www.irishgenealogy.ie 



Shane
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 29 August 11 22:29 BST (UK)
re the two addresses mentioned

22 Bridge Street - there are two Bridge Streets in Dublin city, an upper and lower. Bridge St Lwr is off Merchant's Quay and so close to the convent mentioned earlier.

In 1877 22 Bridge St. Lwr is listed as :

  Heather Brothers & Co., wholesale boot and shoe manufacturers

20,21 & 22 Bridge St Upr

   Jos. Allen & Co. Merchants

and in 1891 22 Bridge St. Lwr is listed as :

  Heather Brothers & Co., wholesale boot and shoe manufacturers
   factory 57 to 61 Augustine St

22 Bridge St Upr

  Mrs. Ellen Dorrington, brush manufacturer

I dont see any mention of a street named Saxon place in Dublin city in the 1870s - I checked street listing from 1872, and indexes from 1877 and 1879.




Shane
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Tuesday 30 August 11 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi Shane

Thanks again for taking the time to search. Looks like it wont be as easy as I thought.

The Saxon Place reference is a bit strange, haven't found any link at all, possibly recorded on his service record incorrectly?

Didn't come up with anything on the irishgenealogy site either although all the records may not have been transcribed I guess

Also the "Royal Longford Militia, if he was born in Dublin why would he have served with them?

I'm off on holiday for a week or so but plenty of food for thought?

Thanks again

Mike
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Watson David on Monday 22 October 12 23:40 BST (UK)
I have a Mary Anne Keating b. abt 1862 married to John Moore at St. Nicholas Of Myra Church, Dublin, Ireland 3rd Nov 1879 whose father on her marriage cert is listed as Edward Keating hatter. Do you think that your Edward & Mary Anne could be sisters?
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Tuesday 23 October 12 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi David

Thanks for the post. It's a possibility I guess but I've not had any success in finding a marriage for Edward Keating (Hatter) or a death register which would help pinpoint him. I don't live in Ireland so am reliant upon online resources which haven't indicated any further information as yet.

Where / how did you find the records for Mary Anne?

Mike
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Watson David on Tuesday 23 October 12 16:22 BST (UK)
Mary Anne Keating sometimes spelt with an e on the end, Married John Moore labourer on 3 Nov 1879 at St. Nicholas Of Myra Church, Dublin, Ireland. Her father is given as Edward Keating (hatter) and her mother as Mary( no maiden name) . John & Mary Anne had 4 children John Joseph, Margaret, Mary Esther and Alice. John was a driver for the British Army in the early part of their marriage and the children were born at various army camps. JJ in Dublin, Margaret in Aldershot, ME in Woolwich Arsenal and Alice in Co.Tyrone.
John & Mary Anne are both in the Irish census of 1901 and 1911 you will find these free on the internet at Irish National Archives. Inevitably Mary Anne has listed her birth as in Limerick in 1901 and Dublin City in 1911 to confuse things. I have tried all the on-line sources to try and find the marriage of Edward & Mary but have not succeeded so far but will keep on.
My mother was a daughter of Mary Esther.
It has taken me a long time to get all this as you know Irish facts are hard to find. So let's keep in touch and see where we get to.
Title: Re: Edward Keating
Post by: Danedan on Monday 29 October 12 19:15 GMT (UK)
Hi David

Thanks for the reply.

Will update you if I find anything further.

Mike