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Title: BANKS of Andover
Post by: carrbridge on Sunday 28 August 11 21:20 BST (UK)
Banks of andover
thank you
Title: Re: Banks
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 29 August 11 00:49 BST (UK)
How can we possibly know what  you want when you have posted the bare minimum of information??

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Banks of andover
thank you
Title: Re: Banks
Post by: carrbridge on Monday 29 August 11 07:28 BST (UK)
possible first name thomas .sorry i don't have very much info
thank you
Title: Re: Banks
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 29 August 11 17:53 BST (UK)
Are you descended from one of his children?  If so - give us the details of that child so we can work from that info

Have you had a look at the free 1911 index?  There are 2 possibilities living in Andover - both called Thomas Alexander Banks.  One b 1859 and the other born 1900

Was your Thomas actually born in Andover - or did he just live there?
Title: Re: Banks
Post by: carrbridge on Tuesday 30 August 11 07:37 BST (UK)
I am not one of the children.Sorry i can't be of more help.Thank you for info
Title: Re: Banks
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 30 August 11 14:23 BST (UK)
I'm puzzled - you presumably have some connection and haven't just plucked the name and location out of thin air?

So - where did you get that info from and what is your interest?

We are happy to help you in any way we can but without more info we would not know which Thomas Banks was your interest
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: Little Nell on Tuesday 30 August 11 20:51 BST (UK)
Hi carrbridge,

Are you able to give a rough date for this (possible first name) Thomas Banks?  I'm not sure that anyone could give you any meaningful information based on just the surname and location  :-\ and RootsChatters hate to fail  ;)

Are you able to say what sort of information you are seeking?  I can't think who said it before, but I'm sure someone did - help us so we can help you.   :)

Nell
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: hampshire-grandma on Wednesday 31 August 11 17:05 BST (UK)
There are some Banks in a book entitled "Andover's Mystery Murder: who Killed Thomas Parsons in 1858?"

Will look in Andover library and find out which Banks, as I read the book some time ago.

Regards,

Grandma
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: hampshire-grandma on Thursday 01 September 11 17:32 BST (UK)
The book I mentioned is by David J.Borrett, written in 2005, ISBN 0 903755 21 1  There's a Banks family in it, Thomas Alexander, born Andover in 1823, named after his father Thomas and his grandfather Alexander, Emma Banks daughter of Thomas Alexander, and Emma, wife of Thomas Alexander, and Elizabeth, unmarried sister of Thomas, and Elizabeth Snr mother of Thomas Alexander.

Thomas is a suspect for the murder, but in the conclusion of the book "Thomas Banks' part was never more than a minor one"  It's a fascinating book.

I hope this all makes sense!

Hampshire Grandma
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: Pingle on Monday 20 February 12 20:30 GMT (UK)
Did Thomas Banks wife Emma go to prison and why?
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: hampshire-grandma on Wednesday 21 March 12 17:30 GMT (UK)
Sorry for delay.  LONG DELAY!  From the book that I mentioned, it seems that while Emma was still in prison awaiting trial, she gave birth to her first son, whom they named Thomas Alexander. This was on 09 Jan 1859.

The local newspaper reported the birth and added that Emma was awaiting her trial in Winchester prison for the murder of William Parsons.

You really need to get the book if you have an interest in the family.  At the end of the book among the notes and references, there are several referring to The Times  newspaper between 30 Nov and 17 Dec 1858.  You can access the Times Digital Archive for free in libraries if you are in this country.  Can't say about other countries.

Noone was found guilty of the murder.  Emma was more than 7 months pregnant at the time.

The Banks left the Andover area, but returned in about 1880 to farm at Andover Down.  Emma died in 1884 and Thomas in 1899.  They are buried in Andover.

Hope that at least some of this is helpful.
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: Pingle on Wednesday 11 April 12 19:03 BST (UK)
Thank you Hampshire Grandma for info it was very helpful.  Thomas Banks and his second daughter Emma Jane lived at Fox Farm Andover Down, the rest of the family lived in London 1881 cencus.   Later Thomas built a house opposite the farm and some of his descendants lived there until the 1960s.
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: hampshire-grandma on Thursday 12 April 12 16:31 BST (UK)
Thanks for replying.  Strangely enough my grandparents lived at Fox Cottages before I was born, and my grandfather( who died before I was born) was a carter on the farm. He died about 1930 I think.

When I was helping some of my cousins with their tree a few years ago, surname Grist, some of them had lived at Fox Cottages too.  I have a feeling that there may have been a connection between the Grists and the Banks but would have to check that

I live not far from these cottages

Best wishes for success in your research.  If you are ever in Andover, the library has several copies of the book and some can be borrowed
Title: BANKS of Andover, Thomas Alexander b. 1824 d. 1899
Post by: Corgidog on Saturday 09 May 15 04:41 BST (UK)
Thank you Hampshire Grandma for info it was very helpful.  Thomas Banks and his second daughter Emma Jane lived at Fox Farm Andover Down, the rest of the family lived in London 1881 cencus.   Later Thomas built a house opposite the farm and some of his descendants lived there until the 1960s.
Hi all. This is my first post. And I have to shout out a huge thank you to hampshire-grandma for supplying so much info related to the Thomas Alexander Banks, b.1824 in Andover. He has turned out to be my husband's Great-grandfather.
Can someone help me  find the  of the names of the children of Thomas Alexander Banks b.1824 and Emma d. 1884 in the London 1881 census mentioned above? I am aware of their son Thomas Alexander Banks, b. 1859 in Winchester, thanks to "Hampshire-grandma". Thomas Alexander Banks, b. 1899 in Fulham, Mdlsx d. in 1983 bur. in Kyle, SK, Canada. His mother was Laura Stokes, ( I have found nothing more of her-help?). Tom's parents moved back (?) to Andover while Tom was young.
Young Tom had lung problems and trouble breathing, so his father, Thomas A., b. 1859, accompanied him to the dry, clear Canadian, Saskatchewan prairies in 1911, when Tom was 12 years old. They got a homestead piece for young Tom to "prove up" and Tom's father left him there while he went on home to England.

CDB
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 09 May 15 08:46 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat CBD

Marriage;
11 June 1888, St Marylebone, London
Thomas Alexander BANKS, 30, Bachelor, Occp Clerk, Father THOMAS ALEXANDER Banks, Occp Farmer
Laura STOKES, 28, Spinster, Father HENRY Stokes, Occp Cavalry Boot Maker
Witnesses, Tho Alex Banks Snr and Maud and Emily Stokes

Trish :)
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: Corgidog on Saturday 09 May 15 09:00 BST (UK)
Trish

Thank you for the information-- already.  That fills in much of Dad Tom's parents' info. Being so new at this, I am floundering just finding my way around RootsChat itself, never mind figuring out how to use the plethora of resources.

I must now seek out the children of Thomas Alexander Banks b. 1824 d. 1899 and Emma d. 1884 in Andover, Hampshire.

CDB

 
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 09 May 15 09:07 BST (UK)
1881 Census
8 New Coventry St,
St Anne Soho, London
Henry STOKES, 54, Head,, Mar, Bootmaker, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Ellen, 46, Wife, Mar, born Staffordshire
Emily, 23, Daug
LAURA, 21, Daug****
Harry, 20, Son
Frank, 16, Son
All Children are down as born London, London, Middlesex, England and all are Bootmakers Assistants

1891 Henry Stokes, Military Bootmaker is alone in St Anne

1871 the Family is;
    
Name    Age
Henry Stokes, 42
Ellen Stokes, 38
Emily Stokes, 14**
LAURA Stokes, 12****
Benjamin Stokes, 10
Charles Stokes, 8
Frank Stokes, 6
Maude Stokes, 5**

So right Family as Maude/Emily, Lauras Sisters are witnesses at her 1888 Marriage.

1861 we have;
Henry Stokes, 32
Emma Stokes, 30
Emiley Stokes, 4
LAURA Stokes, 2
Harry Stokes, 8mths

Marriage;
31 May 1852, All Saints, Paddington
Henry STOKES, Full Age, Bachelor, Shoemaker, Fther JOHN Stokes, Gardener
Ellen BUTLER, Full Age, Spinster, Father JAMES Butler, Shoemaker
Witnesses, James Butler/Mary Ann Batty
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 09 May 15 09:10 BST (UK)
Sorry I paths crossed and I had already typed all of that info up!

Trish :)
Title: Re: BANKS of Andover
Post by: Corgidog on Saturday 09 May 15 09:17 BST (UK)
Trish

Now I am excited.  I hope one day to master some of your skills. For now, thank you for you kind help. And now I must get to bed. It is 2:30 a.m. here.

CDB