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Title: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:37 BST (UK)
Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone could read the handwriting in the attached photo.

It is on the rear of a very old portrait photograph of a male family member.

It's probably quite clear what this says to some people, but not to me unfortunately!

I can identify a few words here and there but if someone could write out what the whole thing says, it'd be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:50 BST (UK)
Queenstown
From a most particular friend
To a fond one.
Hoping Mrs and self
are well

... ........ this day 25th Sep 15th

Wondered whether the second word on bottom line was something to do with furlough?
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:51 BST (UK)
Could it be "Am sailing 15th Sep 15th"
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:52 BST (UK)
Wow, that's interesting... It's a very vague sort of note to send.

I was reading that word as both 'furlong' and then I wondered if it would be 'Galway' which is a city in Ireland..

Thank you!
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:53 BST (UK)
Oh yes, that would make sense. 'Queenstown' was the name for 'Cobh' in County Cork at one time, and that is where all of the ships went out of, so very likely it is 'sailing'.
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Wednesday 24 August 11 14:54 BST (UK)
Could it be "Am sailing 15th Sep 15th"

I was wondering if that date was 15th Sep 18[xx], with the two last digits after the 18 in tiny writing? It could be 1881, perhaps?
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 24 August 11 15:55 BST (UK)
Certainly could be right, the number I originally read as 5 doesn't look like the previous 5 anyway, although that appears to have been over-written perhaps from a 4, so may have been written more carefully to make the change.
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 24 August 11 22:25 BST (UK)
If we could see the front of the photo, it might clear up whether it's supposed to be "18xx" or "[19]15" :)
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ennael on Wednesday 24 August 11 22:34 BST (UK)
Looks like date and time to me as in:
Am  sailing  this day 25th Sept. 1500 (as in 3pm)

Leanne
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: PrueM on Thursday 25 August 11 00:31 BST (UK)
Think you might be right Leanne - thinking about the use of post as quick or almost-immediate communication in former days, it's unlikely that the message would give the year as the recipient would presumably be getting the note the day it was written, or within a day or two afterwards.

I have postcards written by my great-grandmother pre-WW1, written and posted from London in the morning, to let recipient know she would be arriving at their home that evening!  Obviously telephones were either not used much, or few and far between.
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Thursday 25 August 11 00:49 BST (UK)
I think it says 'Am sending this - day.... '

At first I thought the year was 15, but now I favour 18. Perhaps this was noted because of postal problems during the war.
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Thursday 25 August 11 08:10 BST (UK)
Picture is definitely from the 1800s. I don't have the front scanned now but I can do it later in the week.

I think you are right about that being the time, that makes more sense.

'Sending' fits in this place too, as in he's sending the postcard.

The only reason he would have been in Queenstown is because he was sailing somewhere, so it's hard to say which word that is. http://www.findingmyirish.com/emigration-queenstown.htm

Thanks to you all for your help!
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 25 August 11 08:36 BST (UK)
I agree with Mary,and also cannot work out what the two words are,but I wonder if the date might be 25th Sept 15 (as in 1915)

I think the squiggle after the 25 is from the crossed out bit on the line above.

Oops I came in on page one and not two,but I still think it says as above!

Carol
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 25 August 11 12:16 BST (UK)
Now with other's suggestions I'm inclined to think 15pm
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: ROC on Thursday 25 August 11 12:22 BST (UK)
Hmmm.. interesting.

They probably didn't use the 24 hour clock in casual speak back then, did they? And they probably wouldn't put 'pm' with the 24 hour clock.

My eyes are seeing every possibility written in it now!  ;D
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: MaryA on Thursday 25 August 11 12:44 BST (UK)
And they probably wouldn't put 'pm' with the 24 hour clock.
Dohhh of course not
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 25 August 11 12:51 BST (UK)
As a sidetrack, I'm not sure when a.m. and p.m. began to be used.  Bradshaw's railway guide (1922) used mrn and aft.
Title: Re: Fairly simple but I can't read the handwriting on this old photo
Post by: bulgaria71 on Thursday 25 August 11 16:13 BST (UK)
I thought the date was 1915 and it reads like someone joining a troop ship during World War 1.  Queenstown/Cobh was used as a port for both English and American warships.