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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: steviej1957 on Monday 22 August 11 21:34 BST (UK)
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Hi All, I recentley found this photo under the stairs in an empty house I was working in, in Catford South East London. Stuffed inside the back of the frame was part of a Newspaper Dated 2nd May 1919....
Any Idea's ??
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its a lovely jolly photo
does it give any clues to the house you were working in? steps up to the front door maybe?
what was the address maybe we could find it in the directories for 1919
is the newspaper relevant do you think ? is it just stuffed there or purposely put there ? is there an article in the newspaper it could relate to ?
ladies in their hats children in their Sunday best and some have button holes
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This looks 1940's/1950's.
jim
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I was going to say late 40s or early 50s :)
Definitely not 1919, so they were using a very old paper in the frame - perhaps there was an older photo in the frame that they took out to put this one in.
Looks like a children's party - perhaps at a school, or a children's home?
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Yes, agree with Jim and Prue...deffo not 1919.
Cheers,
China
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I wore shoes like the girl near the front of the photo, so 1940's no later than 1955.
Oooooh, did I just give away my age?
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Looks like Herbert Morrison, Minister of Transport in the Attlee Govt. in the centre.
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Looks like Herbert Morrison in the centre.
I think you're right Bill ! :) :)
Here's something to compare :
http://www.npg.org.uk/whatson/display/2011/herbert-morrison-the-cockney-socialist.php
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And again on this page. http://helpgov.wordpress.com/tag/politics/ ears and glasses look similar.
Bill.
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Do you think the boy on the left in front, acting as 'leader of the musical band' could be the son of the man in the center? They appear to have very simial features.
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Perhaps they are celebrating Mayday with the railings garlanded and the buttonholes etc.
James
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Yes I think it is the Minister and they are celebrating either a visit or his gaining a 'seat' or something. The youngsters are all part of a band or something... Lovely
xin
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My guess is the 1951 Festival of Britain.
Lord President of the Council was Herbert Morrison. It would have also been a wonderful photo opportunity because there was a general election held in the same year.
At that time, shortly after the end of World War II, much of London was still in ruins and redevelopment was badly needed. The Festival was an attempt to give Britons a feeling of recovery and progress and to promote better-quality design in the rebuilding of British towns and cities following the war. The Festival also celebrated the centenary of the 1851 Great Exhibition. It was the brainchild of Gerald Barry and the Labour Deputy Leader Herbert Morrison who described it as "a tonic for the nation".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_of_Britain
Pels.
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Brilliant Pels
sounds like you got it right... :D
xin
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what a lovely photo ,all smiling
sylvia
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I'm wondering whether the school was either in Lambeth where Herbert Morrison was born, therefore possibly his old school. Or in Hackney, which was his first constituency.
Pels.
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Hi
Following on from Pels, I would be interested to find out what is in the 1919 newspaper cutting as, according to his various biogs, Herbert Morrison first entered political life in 1919 as a councillor for the Borough of Hackney; Labour taking control of the Borough at that time.
It's the only thing that I can find that links the photo to a 1919 newspaper cutting.
gnu
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I think you've got something there with the 1919 connection gnu !! :) :)
Catford is in the parish of Lewisham. Did Herbert Morrison have a connection with the South Lewisham Labour Party? Hopefully Stevie will get back to us and help with his knowledge of Catford and South East London.
Pels.
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All I can find is a paper by Andrew Flinn (UCL) on Herbert Morrison and the South Lewisham Labour Pary - National politians and local political parties. Lots of refs to it but can't see it to read :(
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Perhaps you could contact his grandson, Peter Mandleson ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Pels and I were drawing lots for the privilege, Judy ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Who draw the short straw??
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Might be worth contacting
http://www.lewishamhistory.org.uk/about.php
He is mentioned at the bottom of the article. They might like either the photo or a copy.
Jan
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I was Googling 'May Day 1951' and found some lovely photos of the Loftus Junior School children celebrating. That's far from where you located the photo, but the there may be similariites to job memories there. There are names for most of the children, a good source anyway for something else.
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My type of vintage photos just look at their little smiley faces.
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Hi
Following on from Pels, I would be interested to find out what is in the 1919 newspaper cutting as, according to his various biogs, Herbert Morrison first entered political life in 1919 as a councillor for the Borough of Hackney; Labour taking control of the Borough at that time.
It's the only thing that I can find that links the photo to a 1919 newspaper cutting.
gnu
Knowing how easy it is to miss things when there are quite a few replies, hopefully Stevie will answer this because it's worthy of consideration.
I'd love to find out whether the newspaper contained anything relevant ! :) :)
Pels.