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Would be grateful if anyone could help with the Parish Records for Erith, please.
Jane Margaret BEADLE born Erith circa 1796. Jane married William Nightingale and I have traced her from 1841. Now seeking her parents, so if anyone can find her baptism (and any siblings) would be very grateful.
Many thanks.
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When did she marry William Nightingale?
The 1841 has a Jane Beadle b 1796 living in Erith with son Robert 14
Was she a widow when she married Nightingale
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Familysearch has a Robert BEADLE born 8th October 1826, baptised 1st November 1826 at St Alphage, Greenwich - parents Henry & Jane.
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The IGI has a marriage for Henry BEADLE to Jane GOLDEN 19th September 1813 at Bexley, Kent
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Hi
Jane married William Nightingale in 1816 in Bromley St Leonard. They had 7 children all born in Barking, Essex. I know she had a sister Sarah born circa 1801. Sarah married a William Davies and was living with one of Jane's daughters in 1881.
The IGI does not cover Erith Baptisms for circa 1796, and I was hoping someone had access to the Erith Parish Records to trace Jane's parents.
Many thanks
Goughy
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Hi Goughy,
I have a Beadle family from nearby and contemporary.
John Beadle m. Elizabeth Webb 12 May 1768, Milton by Gravesend, Kent
Children all born Milton by Gravesend
John b1766
Elizabeth b1771
Thomas b1774
Sarah b1777
Mary Ann b1781 d1851
Sophia b1784
Henry b1786
There are some MIs at http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk which suggest that the family may have ended up in Erith but nothing definite. John Sr. is my 4th gt grandfather.
Sadly I don't have access to Erith records either.
Paul
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Hi,
You message has just caught my eye as I'm going to Maidstone Archives today. (Not much time to answer, I know). A lot of the Erith records were lost in a fire in the 19th century. I believe (not certain) that there's nothing left from about 1750 - 1801.
Have you been able to tie in any of the other Beadles of Erith as being Jane's siblings? I'll have a look for Sarah.
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I drove all the way to Maidstone yesterday, but, despite them having told me over the phone that they had the records I wanted to see, they didn't have any of them!
So today I went to Bexleyheath, and found out that the Erith records from 1753 to 1801 were all destroyed in a fire. They had a few rescued bits from 1801 - 1813.
These are the baptism records I found for St.John's Church, Erith:
Name - date of baptism - parent's names (sometimes only the father's name was there) (No addresses or occupations given.)
Sarah Beadle - 22/3/1801 - George
Charles Beadle - 1/11/1801 - John
Samuel Beadle - 2/10/1803 - John
Thomas Beadle - 30/12/1804 - George and Sarah
Elizabeth Ann Beadle - 1/10/1809 - John and Elizabeth
John James Read Beadle - 22/8/1811 - John and Elizabeth
James Beadle - 24/11/1811 - Joseph and Jane
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Thank you so much for looking for the records and confirming they have been destroyed. I'll have a delve into the information you have very kindly found.
Once again, many thanks
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Do the Bishops Transcripts (at the Centre for Kentish Studies, Maidstone?) not fill in the gaps or aren't they very complete ???
Casalguidi :)
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You can see the records including Bishops Transcripts the CKS say they have on their guide to parish records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxd/
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Thanks for this. Appreciated
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Sarah Beadle - 22/3/1801 - George
Charles Beadle - 1/11/1801 - John
Samuel Beadle - 2/10/1803 - John
Thomas Beadle - 30/12/1804 - George and Sarah
Elizabeth Ann Beadle - 1/10/1809 - John and Elizabeth
John James Read Beadle - 22/8/1811 - John and Elizabeth
James Beadle - 24/11/1811 - Joseph and Jane
A bit more data.
Charles son of John is the beginning of the wealthy side of the family -- not my husband's, which I'm following. I have a note that there's more on the Attree wed site, but I didn't keep the URL.
There's an Erith gravestone which you probably all have if interested for John d 1831 aged 71, wife Mary d 1799 aged 40, and second wife Ann, d 1853. Son Samuel d 1831 aged 28
Our line goes back reasonably to William Beadle, b c 1813, married to Betsy Jones 1840 with 9 children. On the IGI the marriage record gives the father as Joseph. There's a possible Joseph married to Jane, but neither Joseph nor Jane appear in the children, which is a bit odd.
Is anyone else following William and Betsy and have anything firm?
Thanks.
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Hi, my wifes family were Beadles from Erith, the John mentioned above born 1757 died 1831 is the son of John Beadle born 1730 and Mary. The "money" mentioned came from land owned in Sutton at Hone, the Beadles later became Watermen and can be found on the Kent Watermen and Lightermen records.
They also later diversified into coal supplies, aggregates and owning one of the first car dealerships in Kent which still survives today. The Beadles in Erith also started the Fire Service and provided the land for the local hospital. There are several books on the family in Bexleyheath archives library.
I have never made any connection with the Gravesend Beadles so would be very interested if anybody has any info.
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Sarah Beadle - 22/3/1801 - George
Charles Beadle - 1/11/1801 - John
Samuel Beadle - 2/10/1803 - John
Thomas Beadle - 30/12/1804 - George and Sarah
Elizabeth Ann Beadle - 1/10/1809 - John and Elizabeth
John James Read Beadle - 22/8/1811 - John and Elizabeth
James Beadle - 24/11/1811 - Joseph and Jane
A bit more data.
Charles son of John is the beginning of the wealthy side of the family -- not my husband's, which I'm following. I have a note that there's more on the Attree wed site, but I didn't keep the URL.
There's an Erith gravestone which you probably all have if interested for John d 1831 aged 71, wife Mary d 1799 aged 40, and second wife Ann, d 1853. Son Samuel d 1831 aged 28
Our line goes back reasonably to William Beadle, b c 1813, married to Betsy Jones 1840 with 9 children. On the IGI the marriage record gives the father as Joseph. There's a possible Joseph married to Jane, but neither Joseph nor Jane appear in the children, which is a bit odd.
Is anyone else following William and Betsy and have anything firm?
Thanks.
I also have a connection to a Charles Beadle from Erith although i think his wife was Lydia .I also have copy of my 5th G/G father Ebenezer Martin will 1841 where Charles was a main benefactor. you can pm me for further details,Thanks
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The Charles Beadle born 1801 married Lydia Clayton born 1808 in Westminster.
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Sarah Beadle - 22/3/1801 - George
Charles Beadle - 1/11/1801 - John
Samuel Beadle - 2/10/1803 - John
Thomas Beadle - 30/12/1804 - George and Sarah
Elizabeth Ann Beadle - 1/10/1809 - John and Elizabeth
John James Read Beadle - 22/8/1811 - John and Elizabeth
James Beadle - 24/11/1811 - Joseph and Jane
A bit more data.
Charles son of John is the beginning of the wealthy side of the family -- not my husband's, which I'm following. I have a note that there's more on the Attree wed site, but I didn't keep the URL.
There's an Erith gravestone which you probably all have if interested for John d 1831 aged 71, wife Mary d 1799 aged 40, and second wife Ann, d 1853. Son Samuel d 1831 aged 28
Our line goes back reasonably to William Beadle, b c 1813, married to Betsy Jones 1840 with 9 children. On the IGI the marriage record gives the father as Joseph. There's a possible Joseph married to Jane, but neither Joseph nor Jane appear in the children, which is a bit odd.
Is anyone else following William and Betsy and have anything firm?
Thanks.
Hi ,your William's Father was Joseph and he was born 1775 and was the Son of John Beadle born 1730.
He was married to Jane born 1773, I have five children. Joseph died in 1820 aged 45. Jane re married to Jeffrey Barnett in 1841.
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Hi Cattigry, may have messed up previous post. ::)
Reference Williams Father Joseph, he was the Son of John born 1730 and Mary. Joseph was born 1775.
Joseph married Jane born 1773, I have five children by the marriage.
Joseph died in 1820 aged 45. Jane married for a second time to Jeffrey Barnett in 1841.
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Parents of Jane Margaret Beadle were George Beadle, a Thames waterman, and Sarah Dixon. My gr gr grandmother was Jane's sister, Sarah, who married William Davies in 1894. Sarah Dixon died in 1806 and George married again in 1812. As well as Sarah siblings include George and Thomas, as well as those born to George's 2nd wife (also Sarah)
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Thanks for this information about Jane's parents. I have sent a PM
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Thanks for this information about Jane's parents. I have sent a PM
As you can see I have only ever posted 1 item so I think I can't send a PM to you until I've done at least 3. However I
have info on Jane's parents and her grandfather for you.
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Hello,
My 3rd great-grandparents were Jane Margaret Beadle and William Nightingale. One of their daughters, Jane Sarah Nightingale (b1818,aka Jennie), married William Hughes. Their daughter, Maria Agnes Hughes, married Henry Rumley and they emmigrated to the USA about 1873. This is my line.
Would love to chat.
Bryce
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Hi Goughy,
I have a Beadle family from nearby and contemporary.
John Beadle m. Elizabeth Webb 12 May 1768, Milton by Gravesend, Kent
Children all born Milton by Gravesend
John b1766
Elizabeth b1771
Thomas b1774
Sarah b1777
Mary Ann b1781 d1851
Sophia b1784
Henry b1786
There are some MIs at http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk which suggest that the family may have ended up in Erith but nothing definite. John Sr. is my 4th gt grandfather.
Sadly I don't have access to Erith records either.
Paul
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Have just picked up this post, if you can pick up on my posts on this subject there is quite a bit of information.
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I see most of the Beadles mentioned in my own tree except the John Beadle and Elizabeth Webb line.
Actually I have two entries into the Beadles. The first was mentioned before: Jane Margaret Beadle (1796-1851) married William Nightingale (1792-1856). Their daughter, Jane Sarah Nightingale (1818-1893) married William Hughes (1788-1855).
William Hughes had his own connection to the Beadles: His first wife was Amelia Beadle (1790-1842) who was the daughter of James Beadle (1762-1804) and Jane Spright.
Jane Margaret and Amelia were cousins.
Thanks for responding.