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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: skerries on Friday 26 March 10 15:28 GMT (UK)
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hi hope you can help trying to trace my family's roots grandfather patrick Doyle and wife Bridget [nee] peppard of the commons lusk co Dublin.Thank you
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do you know (even approx.) what years they were born or married ?
Shane
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sorry dont know exact year but between 1870 1888 .born
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a little earlier than the years you mentioned, but this one jumps out from the Irish Civil BMD index (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable) as it's in the correct registration district for Lusk :
Name: Bridget Peppard
Registration district: Balrothery
Record type: Birth
Registration date - quarter and year: 1867
Volume: 7 / Page: 493
(It's the only one listed as either Peppard or Pepper in the distrct near to that year)
see 2 Minute Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) for notes on searching the index, ordering certs etc..
Shane
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Thank you i will search that year hope it is her .Again thank you.
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The IGI (www.familysearch.org) gives some possible additional details for that birth :
Bridget Peppard
Birth: 09 May 1867, Dublin
Father: Thomas Peppard
Mother: Jane Donnelly
Shane
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I think she might have been born round a bout1859 sorry but again thank you for all the info it is still a great help.
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unfortunately 1859 would be before the start of Civil Registration (1864), so will not in the Civil Index mentioned earlier. You will have check into Church Records for details of Bridget's birth etc... Not sure about Church of Ireland details, but I think Lusk may be in the RC parish of Holmpatrick.
Shane
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John Grenham's book says that Lusk was an R.C. Parish with some records from mid 1700s.
James Ryan's book says there's a gap in Lusk 1835-1856
eadaoin
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Thank you for that information i will look it up.
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This is what is available for Lusk at the NLI on microfilm P.6616
Baptisms Sept. 1757 - Aug. 6, 1801
Marriages Nov. 20, 1757 - Jan. 12, 1801
(This register is in poor condition)
Baptisms and Marriages Mar. 11, 1802 - Dec. 27, 1835
(The early part of this register is very faint)
Baptisms Aug. 3, 1856 - Dec. 21, 1880
Marriages Mar. 6, 1856 - Nov. 22, 1880
Dara.
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Hello checked out the census of 1911 and found my grandparents. But how do i go about finding there parents can you point me in the right direction please and thank you so much for all the work you did :) :)
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If you post a link to the Census entry you found it would be a big help.
Dara.
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Lusk/Lusk__a_/2241/
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The best first step is probably to locate a marriage cert for Patrick and Bridgid. The census form states that they were married 19 years, which means about 1892. Your can search the Irish Civil Index (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable) for possible marriages... I'd start with Bridgid as Peppard is a quite rare surname, making the search easier. I see a few possible matches, but none in the registration district that would fit with Lusk (i.e. Balrothery).
Name: Bridget Peppard
Registration district: Dublin South
Record type: Marriage
Quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1892
Volume: 2 / Page: 627
Name: Bridget Peppard
Registration district: Dublin North
Record type: Marriage
Quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1888
Volume: 2 / Page: 503
Neither fit the date and location exactly - the closest to the date is the one in Dublin South, but the 1888 marriage would be nearer to the north County Dublin area.
I'll have a look and see if I can find a match for a Patrick Doyle for either of these.
You could also confirm the family details by ordering a cert for one of the children - this would show fathers occupation, mothers maiden name etc. There's a good match in the index for one of the children's births :
Name: Nicholas Doyle
Registration district: Balrothery
Record type: MARRIAGES
Quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1907
Volume: 2 / Page: 389
Name: Nicholas Doyle
Registration district: Balrothery
Record type: BIRTHS
Quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1906
Volume: 2 / Page: 334
Shane
edit - post corrected, I had posted a marriage reference for a Nicholas by mistake.
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This looks like a match:
Name: Patrick Doyle
Registration district: Dublin South
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date - quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1892
Volume: 2
Page: 627
Dara.
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Thank you Dara much appreciated
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Thank you for that info i will look in to that :)
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hope you can help trying to find if my grandmother Bridget Doyle [nee peppard] had a sister called Catherine who married a sweetman in lusk co dublin. thank you
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any idea of any dates of birth or marriage for Bridget or Catherine ?
Shane
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Your earlier post on Bridget gives an idea of dates but it's possible Catherine was born before the start of civil registration.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,446532.msg3090202.html Threads Merged
Bridget's marriage certificate should list father's name and occupation which might help get her brith details.
Catherine's marriage certificate should also list fathers name and occupation. See civil registration index to find details needed to order the certificate:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084
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The best first step is probably to locate a marriage cert for Patrick and Bridget. The census form states that they were married 19 years, which means about 1892....
Name: Bridget Peppard
Registration district: Dublin South
Record type: Marriage
Quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1892
Volume: 2 / Page: 627
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This looks like a match:
Name: Patrick Doyle
Registration district: Dublin South
Record type: Marriage
quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1892
Volume: 2 / Page: 627
Did you try this marriage cert - was it the right one ?
Shane
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Lusk/Lusk__a_/2241/
this looks like the same Doyle family in 1901 - still in Lusk, but more detailed place of birth shown for some of the family...
Doyle household, Great Commons, Lusk (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Lusk/Great_Commons/1265539/)
Looks like father and eldest son born Dublin city, everyone else born County Dublin. So maybe that Dublin South City 1892 marriage could fit ?
Shane
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I'm from Lusk. I know of two Doyle families from Lusk. I doubt if they are related to each other.
They one from Racecommons are small farmers with Eddie the father and I doubt if from Dublin. The other, also from just outside Lusk but the opposite side, might well be from Dublin.
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Baptism in St Andrews 1893
Patrick Doyle son of Patrick Doyle and Brigid Peppard 4 Brunswick St, sponsor Kate Peppard.
church register not viewable so allow for mistranscription of mothers name.
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I'm from Lusk. I know of two Doyle families from Lusk. I doubt if they are related to each other.
They one from Racecommons are small farmers with Eddie the father and I doubt if from Dublin. The other, also from just outside Lusk but the opposite side, might well be from Dublin.
In Lusk current Graveyard, Paddy Doyle is buried and he was married to a (Kate / Kitty) Rafferty, her brother Thomas was killed during 1916 Rising at Ashbourne as part of Tomas Ashe's men and also buried there, Paddys's sister was married to Dan Brophy but she sadly died young. All were involved in 1916 Rising.
Seems to have been common for men to have married sisters po men they were fighting with........ probably not surprising really when not knowing who to trust.
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hope you can help trying to find if my grandmother Bridget Doyle [nee peppard] had a sister called Catherine who married a Sweetman in lusk co dublin. thank you
There is a record in the civil marriage index for a Catherine Peppard marriage Balrothery registration District 1865 Vol 17 p 492 and a James Sweetman on the same page. However this seem to be an earlier generation than your grandmother?
annclare
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Lusk/Lusk__a_/2241/
this looks like the same Doyle family in 1901 - still in Lusk, but more detailed place of birth shown for some of the family...
Doyle household, Great Commons, Lusk (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Lusk/Great_Commons/1265539/)
Looks like father and eldest son born Dublin city, everyone else born County Dublin. So maybe that Dublin South City 1892 marriage could fit ?
Shane
The Joseph Doyle, aged 2, at the bottom of the census link, was my Grandfather.
Jules
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Welcome to RootsChat, Jules :)
The Joseph Doyle, aged 2, at the bottom of the census link, was my Grandfather.
skerries (the OP) was last online here in June 2016, but if their e-mail hasn't changed they will get a notification of your post and hopefully reply.
You probably have this, but here's the link for others of your grandfather's birth. #56
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01635/1653799.pdf
Two elder siblings-
Mary Anne born 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01827/1714403.pdf
Nicholas born 1906
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01720/1680615.pdf
KG
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Thank you, Kiltaglassan. My mother has researched our family tree, and as we're planning a visit to Dublin in a couple of weeks, I thought I might visit Lusk to have a look at the root of her family.