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trying to find my family who emigrated from Wales to america abt 1879 or 1884. Persons emigrating were Daniel & Ann with children Edward, Eleanor, Elizabeth, Ann Morgan with patrick Sheeran.
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Hello and welcome to RC.
Could we have a bit more information.
What is the surname of Daniel and Ann, plus approx ages or dates of birth for any of these people.
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hi suffock sue
thanks for the reply. i'm sorry i didn't make it clearer but i am new at this. tha surname of the immigrants was morgan. father daniel, mother ann
children were i think elizabeth b 1877
ann b 1879
and thomas (surname sheeran son of ann's first partner)
there could have been others. cheers mirambu
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Where did they eventually settle in the US. Have you found them on any census?
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Hi Mirambu and welcome,
There was a great deal of emigration from Wales to the USA at this time; have you got a place-name for the Morgans' origin - town, county or anything similar? It would be a great help in finding them.
Best of luck,
Pinot :)
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trying to find my family who emigrated from Wales to america abt 1879 or 1884. Persons emigrating were Daniel & Ann with children Edward, Eleanor, Elizabeth, Ann Morgan with patrick Sheeran.
Hi Mirambu,
Welcome to rootschat.
Your ancestors probably first set foot on Ellis island may be worth checking this out.
www.ellisisland.org
cheers,
Billy.
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Ellis Island wasn't opened until 1892-
http://www.ellisisland.org/genealogy/ellis_island_timeline.asp
If the family arrived at New York earlier see www.castlegarden.org for passenger lists. However, these early lists contain little detail- usually just name, sex, age, occupation, country of origin.
Reading through your initial post, Mirambu, I've not clear as to what you are looking for- is it tracing this family in America (census records, etc.) or do you need help finding details about them in Wales?
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Hi all
more info on the morgan family. my family story is that Daniel jnr was 9 when they emigrated. he didn't want to go so hid in the haystack until they had left to join the ship, after that he lived with his grandparents.
daniel snr b 4 may 1848 Llandilofawr Carmarthenshire wales, ann his wife b 1843 Ireland, went to wales when she was six years old.
children all born anglesey wales. two sons born usa patrick b 1844 prince or pierce b 1889.
1900 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, immigration 1884
1910 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, married, boarder emigrated 1880. no ann in it.
1910 census usa: patrick, plains, luzerne, b 1883, married, 2 stepdaus, emigrated 1890. no trace of him after that.
no trace of prince or pierce.
that's all i know.
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Is it information on the family that went to America you want to find now? or details about Daniel that stayed in Wales? or information on the whole family when they lived in Wales?
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I can see a family that seems to fit for Daniel, but he was born in Anglesey, not Carmarthenshire. There's quite a distance in between & wouldn't be an easy, or a very likely, journey.
1881 Mill St, Llangefni, Anglesey RG11/5586 folio 33 pg 9
Elizabeth Morgan head widow 62 b. Anglesey, Llangristiolus
Edward son widower 30 general labourer b. Llangristiolus
Pierce son 18 shoemaker b. Llangefni
Edward grandson 9 b. Llangefni
William grandson 3 b. Caernarvonshire, Bethesda
Daniel grandson 9 b. Bethesda
1861 Mill St, Llangefni RG9/4362 folio 34 pg 14
Elizabeth Morgan head mar 42 pauper
Daniel son 12 labourer
Edward son 10
Ellen dau 5
all born Llangristiolus
marriage reg
Daniel Morgans dec qtr 1872 Bangor vol 11b pg 1054 with Ann Shearan on the same page
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1871 census has Daniel born Llangristiolus lodging in Llanllechid in Caernarvonshire with a Williams family RG10/5733 folio48 pg 4. Also in Llanllechid
1871 28 Cilfodau St, Llanllechid RG10/5733 folio 48 pg 4
James Sheeran head mar 67 quarry labourer b. Ireland
Elizabeth wife 56 b. Ireland
Ann dau 22 b. Ireland
Thomas son 18 b. Bangor
Mary grand dau 5 b. Llanllechid
Thomas grandson 4 b. Llanllechid
birth reg for Thomas
Thomas Sheeran sept qtr 1866 Bangor vol 11b pg 525
1861 16 Garden St, Llanllechid RG9/4350 folio 92 pg 15
James Sheeran head mar 58 brewer's man b. Ireland
Elizabeth wife 45 b. Ireland
Patrick son 19 mariner b. Ireland
Ann dau 14 b. Ireland
Thomas son 8 b. Bangor
Ellen Welch visitor widow 60 hawker b. Ireland
James Sheeran relative widower 26 foreman in marine store b. Ireland
John Sheeran relative 5 b. Bangor
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thanks for info. there are two daniel morgans they are father and son. son stayed in wales and father emigrated to usa. my husband is daniel the sons grandson his mother is annellen morgan who emigrated to australia in 1920. all the family seemed to live in llangefni wales. daniel the sons d-i-l and her 2 children still live there.
i am interested in anything on the family whether in wales or usa. i think the reason for caenarfon is because that is the registration district and not the actual birth place could this be right. as far as i know they were all in anglesey. thanks for all input from everyone
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Sorry, I didn't mention Caernarfon, town or registration district, but the county - Caernarvonshire. Daniel was enumerated in Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire in 1871 & married in the Bangor registration district in Caernarvonshire. According to the census, Daniel junior was born in Bethesda. He appears to have been born before the marriage of his parents
birth reg
Daniel Morgan Sheeran sept qtr 1871 Bangor vol 11b pg 509
Births have to be registered where they take place & the Bangor registration covered several parishes including Bethesda
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bangor.html
That doesn't mean that he didn't grow up in Anglesey, but he wasn't born there.
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thanks for that osprey. you have clarified this up. i wondered if they lived there originally and then went to anglesey later. its very confusing at times, with the two daniels and no second name. i assume ann's parents went to wales because of the hard times in ireland with the potato famine etc. cheers mirambu
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well, Daniel senior seems to be from an Anglesey family. Both his parents were born there.
1851 Bodafon Bach, Llangristiolus HO107/2520 folio 88 pg 17
Hugh Morgan head mar 33 coal miner b. Anglesey, Llanfihangel Esceifiog
Elizabeth wife 32 b. Llangristiolus
Annie dau 8 b. Llangristiolus
Daniel son 3 b. Llangristiolus
Edward son 1 month b. Llangristiolus
birth reg
Daniel Morgans june qtr 1848 Anglesey vol 27 pg 455
The birth cert would confirm maiden name of mother, but this looks like a possible marriage reg
Hugh Morgans march qtr 1842 Anglesey vol 27 pg 539 with Elizabeth Jones on the same page
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thank you osprey for the info. i have just sent an email to my husbands first cousin in llangefni asking him if he knows the maiden name of his gggfather hugh's wife. seems you may have solved that for me.
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aghadowey
I don't think i replied to you. :'(sorry about that.
I am interested in the Morgan family of mine that went to usa also those that stayed in wales. i have some info because i wrote down a lot of what mum was telling me but unfortunately we were in darwin nt when cyclone tracey went through and lost everything. the sad think is i lost my family history papers as well and sadly by this time mum was in a home both deaf, blind, no legs and faulty memory. i remember the stories but not exactly who they pertained to except for her father daniel morgan hiding in the haystack when 9yrs old when he was supposed to go with his parents to america. he didn't want to go and after this lived with his grandmother elizabeth.
thanks to all for their interest in my search. i have concluded that they went to pennsylvania. found the 1900 census with them but the 1910 census doesn't seem to be our daniel.
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I'm not sure what to make of all this, I've just picked up my MORGAN line research again and thought the following from the OP was MY family!:
1900 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, immigration 1884
1910 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, married, boarder emigrated 1880. no ann in it.
1910 census usa: patrick, plains, luzerne, b 1883, married, 2 stepdaus, emigrated 1890. no trace of him after that.
no trace of prince or pierce.
I have the personal name Pierce in my Morgan line so it makes sense, but like the OP, I could not find "Prince" after the 1910 PA census. It could be that he died.
I'm very interested in what anyone has found about this, as I knew my MORGAN's had settled out in that general area of PA (then some moved slowly west toward Berwick, PA, at least one married an O'BRIEN and moved on to OHIO). But I also found my grandfather's marriage certificate and it states that his father was from out in Plains, PA.
I'm just so excited to see this thread on MORGAN. My MORGAN'S have been very elusive thus far, I assume it is because they moved around to where the work was.
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It appears that Patrick Morgan, son of Daniel and Ann Sheeran, died in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on 31 Oct. 1918 of pneumonia following influenza.
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Is it possible that "Ann Sheeran" is really "Ann Sheridan"? :-\
That is the maiden name of the Ann who married my Daniel Morgan that I am looking for.
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It really looks more like Sheran, but I would keep it as a possibility.
There is also a death certificate for Mrs. Mary Morgan, who died 1 Nov. 1918 in Mercy Hospital (same hospital as Patrick), Wilkes-Barre. She was age 38 and born in Pennsylvania. The death certificate said Mrs. Patrick Morgan, and then the Patrick Morgan was crossed out and Mary Morgan written in. She also died of pneumonia following influenza. Her parents appear to be listed as Michael Dougherty and Bridget Carey, both born Ireland. Both Mary & Patrick's death certificate give their former or usual residence as 60 N. Main St. and both were buried in Plains.
It looks like there might be death notices for Patrick & Mary here:
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/55417745/
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/55417774/
You can see some of the text if you scroll to the bottom.
On www.genealogybank.com, there appears to be a funeral notice about the funeral for this couple in a Wilkes-Barre newspaper. It's not really working for me at the moment, but a library has Wilkes-Barre newspapers from that time for free - https://sites.google.com/site/onlinenewspapersite/Home/usa/pa
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That was very kind of you to post all that information.
No, it appears this is not my family, and most likely it was Sheeran and not Sheridan then.
The library newspaper links will prove very helpful in my searching, thank you.
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I wouldn't rule it out based on the mother's maiden name on the death certificate, if the other information fits. I couldn't read who the informant was on the certificate and, considering that both members of this couple were obviously seriously ill at the same time, the information may have come from someone who didn't know his mother.
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I thought about that after I posted. I've got so many Anns and Marys in this family, it is hard to keep them straight, in fact, I temporarily forgot I was working on a different generation here. I will take another look at this, but am really dying to get rid of some of my false leads. :P
I will do my best to update this if I figure it out.
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UPDATE: This is my family. ;D
I've conducted some extensive research, and the marriage and birth certificates I ordered have confirmed it.
Apparently, the "Sheridan" written on my great grandfather's death certificate (as his mother's maiden name) was remembered wrong by the information provider, it was indeed Ann Sheeran (Shearan).
Now, I'd like to find the member whom had posted on here in 2011, "mirambu", as it looks like she is my cousin! I am a descendant of Daniel Morgan who came to Pennsylvania from North Wales.