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Seeking Quinlisk ancestors. Hugh Quinlisk born about 1830 of Clonymohan, Dunkerrin, is my maternal great-great grandfather, father of Catherine Quinlisk b1850, my great grandmother.
John Keeshan b1838 of Mountdudley, Roscrea, Tipperary, married Catherine Quinlisk on 7 Feb 1869 at the Catholic Chapel of Dunkerrin and lived in Pintown, Roscrea, Tipperary. Witnesses to their marriage were Jeremiah Leamey and Julia Quinlisk. Is Julia Quinlisk the mother or sister of Catherine Quinlisk?
John Keeshan b1838 is the son of Edward b1805 and Catherine (Gilbert) b1810 Keeshan of Mountdudley, Tipperary.
Does anyone have knowledge of the Quinlisk family? Thank you.
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It looks like there's may be a transcript of Catherine's baptism record on the Irish Family History Foundation pay-website at www.rootsireland.ie That may give you the name of her mother and the townland your Quinlisk family lived. Based on a search of the index by father's name, there also may be a few siblings for Catherine baptised in the same parish.
Dunkerrin RC baptism & marriage records go back to 1820
Shane
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Seeking Quinlisk ancestors. Hugh Quinlisk born about 1830 of Clonamohan, Dunkerrin, is my maternal great-great grandfather, father of Catherine Quinlisk b1850, my great grandmother.
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could that townland be Clonymohan ?
it's located in the civil parish of Castletownely in the south west of Co. Offaly near the border with Co. Tipperary
There's a Quinlisk household listed in that townland on the 1901 census - head of household is a Hugh Quinlisk - possibly brother of your Catherine ?
Quinlisk household, Clonymohan - 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Templeharry/Clonymohan/1468096/)
Shane
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possible marriage of a sister of Catherine :
Groom : James Green
Bride : Mary Quinlisk
Marriage date: 02 Mar 1867
Marriage place: Shinrone, Roscrea, Kings (district)
Groom's father: Michael Green
Bride father: Hugh Quinlisk
Bride and Groom both : Single
see : link (https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/9SL6-HFJ/p1) (FamilySearch Irish extracted marriages )
Catherine's marriage is also listed - link (https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/9SLF-Z6Y/p1)
Shane
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Thank you for clarification of the townland name of Clonymohan, the census for Hugh Quinlisk a possible brother of Catherine, and marriage info on Mary Quinlisk. I have the baptism and marriage record for Catherine Quinlisk purchased from Irish Family History Foundation (IFHF).
Church Baptism Record for Catherine Quinlisk
Church baptism: 11 Aug 1850
Address: none
District: Dunkerrin
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Hugh Quinlisk
Mother: Catherine Meara
Sponsor 1: Michael Bowen
Sponsor 2: Catherine Bowen
Church Marriage Record:
Groom: John Keeshan
Bride: Catherine Quinlisk
Marriage date: 7 Feb 1869
Address: not recorded
District: Dunkerrin County: Tipperary
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Marriage place: Shinrone, Roscrea, Kings (this info found on original document)
Bride father: not recorded, but is Hugh Quinlisk
Groom father: not recorded, but is Edward Keeshan
Bride: Single, spinster
Groom: single, farmer
Witness 1: Jeremiah Leamey
Witness 2: Julia Quinlisk
Julia Quinlisk could be an aunt, wife of a Quinlisk, or sister of Catherine Quinlisk. On the IFHF site I found the church baptism records for 10 of 12 children born from 1870 to 1896 to John and Catherine (Quinlisk) Keeshan. Also found church baptism records for John Keeshan and his four siblings born from 1833 to 1842
I don't know the church name for the baptisms and marriage. I want to get a copy of the original baptism and marriage records, so do I write a letter to all the parish churches in Shinrone, Dunkerrin, Offaly/Kings Co. near Roscrea?
Any help is appreciated.
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I dont know about 'original certs' for historic church records, but you can view microfilms of the parish registers in the National Library in Dublin.
Shane
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On the IFHF site I found the church baptism records for 10 of 12 children born from 1870 to 1896 to John and Catherine (Quinlisk) Keeshan.
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You can search for the references for the marriages and births after 1864 and order civil certs for these from the GRO. Research certs are photocopies of the civil register.
see :
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)
Shane
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This is great! Thank you for the links. I am missing baptism records and want to get copies of them and death certificates, if available. Next is the challenge of the search!
Thank you for your time and expertise.
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Usually the only baptism records you will obtain for historic records are in the form of transcripts, like those on the RootsIreland website. Most people save screenshots of these for their records.
Images of the registers for a few parishes can be viewed online on www.irishgenealogy.ie , but none for Co. Offaly or Tipperary at the moment.
Registration of deaths started in 1864, and you can search the index mentioned in the introduction topic earlier to locate possible matches. Note Irish Death certs dont include much useful details for family history purposes.
see : Details included on a Death Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433043.0.html)
Shane
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I did print screenshots of all records I found on rootsireland.ie. Most of the records are incomplete with important information missing. Was this due to laziness or lack of ability to read and write? I thought maybe when they inputed information off the original document maybe only select info was inputed for whatever reason which is why I wanted to see a copy of the original document where I would find the missing info. Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
One of my posts last night and another just now will not go through when I hit post; the page is frozen, too, so I have to exit and retype the post. Any ideas what the problem could be?
Do the Irish have one form like the Italian Situazione di Famiglia wherein you have parents names, birthdates, where born, who and date married for all of their children so at a glance you have a gold mine of information?
Thank you.
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The usual details included on early RC baptism record would be date of baptism, name of the child and full names of both parents. Baptism records often include the names of two godparents, and sometimes a place of residence. The name of the parish and denomination is also included in the RootsIreland transcripts.
The majority of records on RootsIreland are complete transcriptions of the original records.
Civil records, i.e. birth and marriage certs, generally show more details than church records. These started in 1864.
Shane
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rootsireland.ie .. Most of the records are incomplete with important information missing. Was this due to laziness or lack of ability to read and write?
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I like the question, it is probably a mixture of both reasons. It is a long story as to how rootsireland.ie got hold of these records, but my advice is to avoid buying their information where ever possible because of the paucity of information given and the errors in transcription
You need to go back to the original parish records from which these were transcribed, and these are not available online. Microfilm at NLI can usually be found if these people have a transcription
I would add, that given the small number of Quinlisks in Ireland, then it wuld be viable to do a complete tree for them, starting with 1901 census and working back
My interest is in the Quinlisks who went to Wexford and later one ended in Casement's Irish Brigade, and eventually being executed in Cork in 1920 as a spy for the British. Timothy Quinlisk on this link (http://www.irishbrigade.eu/recruits/quinlisk.html)
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In this case I believe the records on the RootsIreland website are likely to be complete transcripts of the original record in the register - the baptism record mentioned above contains all the details I would expect for an RC record of that time, as does the marriage.
Shane
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I have a John Quinlisk b about 1846 married Margaret Kinirons (1858-1912) and living in Shinrone - eleven children in the 1901 census. I wonder if they are related to your Hugh Quinlisk? There are several Quinlisk graves at Kilcomin graveyard with details available online. Liam
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I have a John Quinlisk, son of John Quinlisk, marrying Mary or Margaret Kinirons (b 1858) of Roscrea on 4 Feb 1876 in Roscrea. She was the daughter of Thomas and Winifred Kinirons of Roscrea. Liam