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Title: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Sunday 14 August 11 16:35 BST (UK)
Robert Carson b. prox. 1781 in Ireland married Sarah Creaton (Crichton/Creighton) at St. Andrews on the Green in Glasgow on July 4, 1806. He was a muslin weaver. Lived in Calton.
I'm looking for additional children. I have James b. prox 1817-1820 in Shettleston and Robert Jr. b. prox. 1821.
Also, does anyone have clues how to trace Robert Sr. back to Northern Ireland?
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Sunday 14 August 11 23:06 BST (UK)
The marriage is showing on the OPR's but no baptisms
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Monday 15 August 11 23:07 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply! Yes, I have printed out the marriage registration from the OPR. Took me ages to find out the info. I found it by working back from James, my GG Grandfather.
Additional info.: Robert Sr. married Charlotte Ferguson on Oct. 25, 1835 in Camlachie. She was 24 years old! I believe, they had 3 children together. So, Sarah (obviously) died some time before that. I'm unable to locate a death registration for her, though. Robert Sr. was 60 in the 1841 (the first) census.
Thank you for your interest and for your time!
 
 
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 16 August 11 07:34 BST (UK)
FA,  Carson is a Wigtownshire name, many of them settled in Ulster. St Andrews on the Green was the first Episcopalian church built in Glasgow, (now offices). So your Carson was probably Church of Ireland.     Skoosh.
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Tuesday 16 August 11 23:59 BST (UK)
Hello, Skoosh:
Thanks for the information re Episcopalian/Church of Ireland. I'll add this to my "clues" file and keep searching.

Thanks, again!

FifenAyr
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Wednesday 17 August 11 08:10 BST (UK)
FA, how about the national archives,   http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/   a long shot but you never know!
 It could be that only Charlotte was a Piskie and Robert jumped the dyke. He has come over before the famine of the 1840s, cotton weaving was booming in Glasgow.
Newspapers online are another possibility.  Also the Poor Records at the Mitchell Library which might take in their family and refer back to them.     Skoosh.
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 17 August 11 08:59 BST (UK)
It looks like Robert had died by the 1851 census so Poor Relief applications may be your best hope of early records
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Thursday 18 August 11 01:23 BST (UK)
Hello, Sancti:
I've never heard about the Poor Relief applications. Can I find them on-line through ScotlandsPeople? Or, is there another source?
Wow! This is fascinating. Thank you so very much for the clue!
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Thursday 18 August 11 01:30 BST (UK)
Hi, Skoosh:
Your ideas are great! I'll give them a try. I just asked Sancti how to get to the Poor Relief applications. I'm hoping I can get them on-line since I'm "across the pond." :-)
I have another question:  What the heck is a "Piskie"? LOL I understand about Robert jumping the dyke :-)
Take care.  Thank you for your suggestions.
FA
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 18 August 11 07:43 BST (UK)
FA, a "Piskie" is an Episcopalian.   As far as I know the Poor Records at the Mitchell Library are hands-on. You get to handle the actual registers. A couple of sites which might help with your searches,
http://www.talkingscot.com/forum/   a free site and very helpful.
http://scotfamtree.11.forumer.com/   a sub' is about £10 a year, they will search the Poor stuff for you.   
Also worth a try is the Watt Library BMD Index, covering the Greenock Telegraph etc' since the early 19th cent' an excellent resource from  http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/   Weaving cotton was carried on in Renfrewshire and attracted Irish migrants through Greenock. Your man might have moved  there first.     Skoosh.
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: sancti on Thursday 18 August 11 07:47 BST (UK)
As Skoosh says, The Poor Relief records are not online and those that have survived are held in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. Due to your location they may do a search for you if you email with all the early info you have.
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: FifenAyr on Thursday 18 August 11 23:56 BST (UK)
Thank you Sancti and Skoosh: You're wonderful!
"Piskie" ... Of course!  Shoulda known that one! You two have certainly broadened my research avenues.
Thank you again!
FA
Title: Re: Carson/Creaton(Crichton) m July 4 1806-Glasgow
Post by: martinneilb on Wednesday 26 July 23 22:27 BST (UK)
Anybody still on this thread, looking for info pn Robert Carson / Sarah Crichton