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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: maureen39 on Wednesday 10 August 11 22:04 BST (UK)
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Hi There,
Is there any way of finding where a person lived (address) in between census’s?
My ancestor married in 1866 and then went to live in Manchester her first child was born in Manchester 1887 and the second child was also born in Manchester in 1889.
After that she left England.
Would the address be on the birth certificates? And if so is it possible to view the birth certificates on line without having to buy them…and if so how?
I suppose I’m expecting the impossible!!!
Maureen
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Sorry you wont be able to view a birth certificate on line,buy it yes,
You may be lucky and find their baptism on line,
The address may on the birth certificate,
do you want Rootschatters to help you,
post the names and dates if possible,
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You might be lucky and find them in the historical directories:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/
They are quite comprehensive by the 1880s. Of course only the 'head' adult will be listed, and they are unlikely to be listed if they are in rented accommodation and don't stay in one place for very long. but it's worth a try.
:) Barbara
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Sorry you wont be able to view a birth certificate on line,buy it yes,
You may be lucky and find their baptism on line,
The address may on the birth certificate,
do you want Rootschatters to help you,
post the names and dates if possible,
Thank you Radcliff, I have the birth dates.
This is what I have :- Carrie Jane (Jennie) Wright b 8 th April 1887 Manchester
Thomas Wright b 1st May 1889 Manchester
Any help would be appreciated.
Maureen
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You might be lucky and find them in the historical directories:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/
They are quite comprehensive by the 1880s. Of course only the 'head' adult will be listed, and they are unlikely to be listed if they are in rented accommodation and don't stay in one place for very long. but it's worth a try.
:) Barbara
Thanks Barbara, this looks like a very interesting site once I have fathomed out how to use it.
I do feel they would have been in rented accommodation though as they only stayed for a further two years after they were married in 1886 and then they went to live abroad.
The Wright family had their own joinery/building business as far as I know so its quite possible they may have gone to live with the in laws who I have living at:- Caroline Terrace Barton Upon Irwell on the 1881 Census.
Maureen
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Hi Maureen
If this family had their own business it may be worth looking them up in the rate books held at City Library, M/cr. This will have information in between the census years. Perhaps it may give a clue to the address that you are looking for. The library does have a look-up service if you are not able to go yourself.
Kind regards
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Hi Maureen
If this family had their own business it may be worth looking them up in the rate books held at City Library, M/cr. This will have information in between the census years. Perhaps it may give a clue to the address that you are looking for. The library does have a look-up service if you are not able to go yourself.
Kind regards
Hi There.
Thank you for your reply, is it possible to look at these rate books on line? and if not does the Library have a charge for the look up service?
regards Maureen
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Hi Maureen
No they don't have anything on -line.
Here is a link that may be helpful -
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_studies/462/family_history_in_manchester/11
If you click on "Rate Book Guide" it will explain what they have and what information the rate books contain. The library do have a look up service but I'm not sure what price it is. There is contact information on this site. Hope it may be useful.
Kind regards
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Hi Maureen
The Wright family had their own joinery/building business as far as I know so its quite possible they may have gone to live with the in laws who I have living at:- Caroline Terrace Barton Upon Irwell on the 1881 Census.
Maureen
I see from Lancashire BMDs that Carrie Jane's birth was registered in the Chorlton-on-Medlock district, and possibly also Thomas' birth in 1889 (although there is more than one Thomas Wright registered at that time). So I would be looking for an address in that area.
Found these addreses in the 1886 alphabetical directory:
John Wright, joiner, 168 Stockport Road, Chorlton on Medlock, res. 268 Upper Brook St
John Wright, joiner, 2 Kingsdown St, Chorlton on Medlock
John Wright, joiner, Coleridge St, Grecian St Lower Broughton (the in-laws?)
I've assumed that Carrie's father is John from loking at the public trees on Ancestry - don't know if that's a safe assumption or not!
I think if they moved about a lot though, your safest bet would be to send for the birth cert - all the certs I've had from that time period have had an address.
:) Barbara
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Hi Maureen
No they don't have anything on -line.
Here is a link that may be helpful -
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_studies/462/family_history_in_manchester/11
If you click on "Rate Book Guide" it will explain what they have and what information the rate books contain. The library do have a look up service but I'm not sure what price it is. There is contact information on this site. Hope it may be useful.
Kind regards
Thank you very much for this link, I shall make a point of searching it and also contacting the Library.
regards Maureen
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Hi Maureen
The Wright family had their own joinery/building business as far as I know so its quite possible they may have gone to live with the in laws who I have living at:- Caroline Terrace Barton Upon Irwell on the 1881 Census.
Maureen
I see from Lancashire BMDs that Carrie Jane's birth was registered in the Chorlton-on-Medlock district, and possibly also Thomas' birth in 1889 (although there is more than one Thomas Wright registered at that time). So I would be looking for an address in that area.
Found these addreses in the 1886 alphabetical directory:
John Wright, joiner, 168 Stockport Road, Chorlton on Medlock, res. 268 Upper Brook St
John Wright, joiner, 2 Kingsdown St, Chorlton on Medlock
John Wright, joiner, Coleridge St, Grecian St Lower Broughton (the in-laws?)
I've assumed that Carrie's father is John from loking at the public trees on Ancestry - don't know if that's a safe assumption or not!
I think if they moved about a lot though, your safest bet would be to send for the birth cert - all the certs I've had from that time period have had an address.
:) Barbara
Thank you Barbara for all this information.
Yes you are right his name is John and his father was also called John.
On John’s wedding certificate it states his place of residence at time of marriage (June 1886) as 56 Clarendon Road, Chorlton on Medbeck, Manchester. (Different spelling)
I suppose it’s quite possible that they could have gone to live there?
However, your right I do need to get Carrie’s birth certificate to check and make sure.
I am going to ask around the family first to check if anyone has it already.
I wonder how near the above address is to the ones you have found for me.
I suppose I could do with an old street map of the area at that time.
Thank you so much for your help Barbara I’m very grateful.
Regards Maureen
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Street maps: http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Early%20Maps.html
Choose the Manchester 1930 map, it's got street indexes.
Loes
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Street maps: http://www.artus-familyhistory.com/source/Early%20Maps.html
Choose the Manchester 1930 map, it's got street indexes.
Loes
Thank you Loes for this link, its brilliant and very helpful, I had a quick look and have already found one of the addresses.
Maureen
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Hi all
Barbara
Thank you for the link to the info held list.
I used to use these lists ages ago but when I've been back I've ended uop going round in circles.
Thank you again.
Emms