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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: anabanana on Wednesday 03 August 11 22:03 BST (UK)
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Hello :)
I'm on the hunt for information on a branch of the family called Craigen. The family have been nigh on impossible to track down in Scotland after 1891. And one of the only leads I have is that one of the son's - William Alexander Craigen flitted to Australia in 1890. I have an image of a passenger record for a boat sailing May 1890 - and on it is W A Craigen.
Searching on ancestry showed a William Alxander Craigen residing in Victoria about 45 years later, but couldnt access any information (guess i'm not paying them enough £ already!).
Would really appreciate if anyone could shed some light.
JAMES CRAIGEN (B 1847 ABERDEEN) M JANE ROBERTSON (B 1847 ABERDEEN) 1867
Children:
1. JEAN/JANE CRAIGEN B 1868 ABERDEEN
2. WM ALEXR CRAIGEN B 1870 ABERDEEN
3. JAMES CRAIGEN B 1872 ABERDEEN
4. JOHN CRAIGEN B 1875 (looks like this one stayed in scotland)ABERDEEN
5. GEORGE CRAIGEN B 1877 ABERDEEN
(all of the above births took place in Glass, Aberdeenshire)
6. HENRY CRAIGEN B 1879 BANFFSHIRE D 1937 ABERDEEN
Kind regards
A
Image Removed: Only a small portion of an image maybe displayed for help with handwriting.
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John (26) & Henry (20) Craigen are in Aberdeen in 1901
John is shown as head and occ law cashier and Henry apprentice tailor
Living at 10 Clifton Road
Aberdeen Old Machar ED 4B Page 14 Line 4
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Check the 1911 Census on Scotlands People - most of them seem to be there in Aberdeen.
Annette
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Found this on Vic Aust marriages
CRAIGEN, James
Event: M
BANKS, Minnie Jane
Birth Place: ABERDEENSHIRE
Year: 1896
Reg. Number: 2923
CRAIGEN, Wm
Event: M
GEARY, Flor Ellen
Year: 1913
Reg. Number: 5816
Sid
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Possibly these are the deaths of teh men listed by sid above.
they were brothers of advanced years at death, but seemingly not yours
CRAIGEN William
Father William
Mother Annie TAYLOR
Place MERB
Age 93
Year 1977
Reg 8044
CRAIGEN James
Father William
Mother Ann TAYLOR
Death Place RESE
Age 92
Year 1962
Reg 24474
Sue
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I have an image of a passenger record for a boat sailing May 1890 - and on it is W A Craigen.
The image of the MORAYSHIRE arriving Sydney shows a W A CRAIGEN i listed as crew. It is written across the manifest - no passengers.
Cheers
Cando
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Searching on ancestry showed a William Alxander Craigen residing in Victoria about 45 years later
ANNA
Anna,
By this I assume you mean the Electoral Roll entry in 1949 for WILLIAM ALEXANDER CRAIGEN (Darebin)
A closer look at this seems to show an error.
The Surname appears to be CRAIG, nor CRAIGEN on the original.
Others may be able to assist with careful scrutiny.
Sue
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Hi Anabanana
Are you sure your William Alexander Craigen didn't come to Australia until 1890?
When was he born? Would there have been other Craigen family here?
Craigen is not a very common name here in Oz.
My grandfather's sister Caroline Wilson married a William Craigen on 23 Feb 1877 in Molong, NSW.
They had children William C. 1877, Robert W. 1879, Caroline 1881, Alice 1883, Johanna 1885, William J. 1887, John 1889, Ellen 1891, Grace 1894, Mary 1897. William C. was born at Molong and the rest of them at Wellington NSW
William (the father) would have been born c1832 and he died 1900 at Wellington NSW.
Is Craigen a common name in Scotland? Not sure where my William came from - I have England but not sure this is correct.
Dawn M
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The family have been nigh on impossible to track down in Scotland after 1891. And one of the only leads I have is that one of the son's - William Alexander Craigen flitted to Australia in 1890. I have an image of a passenger record for a boat sailing May 1890 - and on it is W A Craigen.
It appears it is only the crew member with the same initials and surname that has sparked the interest in Australia. There are a couple of later records of W A CRAIGEN as crew on ships arriving Aus.
Sue you are correct. There is no William Alexander CRAIGEN on the image only William Alexander CRAIG with a Thelma Olive CRAIG enrolled to vote from the same address.
1954
CRAIG Thelma Olive 31 Erin Street, Preston HD
CRAIG William Alexander 31 Erin Street, Preston Brewery employee
He is on earlier rolls with Hannah Patricia CRAIG HD at the same addess.
Marriage
CRAIG William Alex
BARRY Patricia Hannah
1913 Reg#10837
There were a family of CRAIGEN's who lived about an hour from my area and the father William died in Mildura in 1977 however the ages are incorrect as well as the parents' names.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Would that be the elderly fellow I listed in #4?
Died in Merbien 1977 just outside Mildura.
Looks like ANNA's chap is not to be seen in Vic after all.
Sue
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Oh dear, so he didnt end up in Oz then? ???
Annette7 I cannot find any of the family in the 1911 census except Henry. I'd be interested to know where you found them?
John married in 1909 to a lady called Anna Brebner. But couldnt find them on the 1911. I will try a soundex on the surname...
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Looks like ANNA's chap is not to be seen in Vic after all.SUE
Anna,
I said "not..... seen in VIC"
The outcome of your search to date is that the Shipping entry you spotted was a crewman of same initials and surname and there are none by the name you are seeking evident in VICTORIA.
Sue
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REPLY TO ANNETTE 7 WILLIAM CRAIGEN WAS MY GRANDFATHER HE FINALLY SETTLED ON A FARM IN TEMPY VICTORIA AUSTRALIA HE HAD A FAMILY OF SIX GIRLS AND ONE BOY THREE OF HIS DAUGHTERS ARE STILL ALIVE TODAY AND ALL IN THEIR NINETEES IF YOU WISH TO KNOW MORE I AM ABLE TO HELP
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WILLIM CRAIGEN WAS MY GRANDFATHER I CAN HELP YOU WITH INFO IF YOU WISH
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Hi :)
Welcome to rootschat :)
The search is for a William Alexander CRAIGEN born 1870 Aberdeen son of James CRAIGEN and Jane ROBERTSTON.
This appears to be your family.
There were a family of CRAIGEN's who lived about an hour from my area and the father William died in Mildura in 1977 however the ages are incorrect as well as the parents' names.
Cando
All speculative...you would need some certificates.
Possibly your Wm's arrival
CRAIGEN Mr 26 years May 1909 on the VICTORIA From Port B 787/003
Marriage
CRAIGEN Wm
GEARY Florence Ellen
1913 Reg#5816
Death reg shows your Wm was born c1884.
CRAIGEN William
Father William Mother Annie TAYLOR
At Merbein 93 years 1977 Reg#8044
Is this your man on the 1891 census living at
Knockdhu, Morayshire?
CRAIGEN William 47 Head Sawmiller Born Leslie, Aberdeenshire
CRAIGEN Ann 42 Wife Born Liff, Forfarshire
CRAIGEN Mary 9 Dau Scholar Born Knockando, Morayshire
CRAIGEN William 7 Son Scholar Born Knockando, Morayshire
MILLER James 4 years Boarder Born Aberlour, Banffshire
And as posted by Sue previously, death of a brother
CRAIGEN James
Father William Mother Ann TAYLOR
At Reservoir 92 years 1962 Reg#24474
and possibly his and sister Mary's arrival
Embarked from London on the S S BORDA on 2 Sep 1926, ticketed to Melbourne, Australia.
Mr James CRAIGEN, 53 years Wood sawyer , Miss Mary CRAIGEN, 43 years, housekeeper, Mr James Norman CRAIGEN, 20 years, Labourer, Miss Mary Isobel CRAIGEN, 18 years, schoolgirl, Mr William Ramsay CRAIGEN, 13 years.
County of last permanent residence, Scotland. Country of intended permanent residence, Australia. Last address Victoria Cottage, Carron, Morayshire
Marriage
970/1930
CRAIGEN Mary
BEATH Laurence
District Jerilderie
They are on Electoral Rolls at Geelong from 1936.
Death
BEATH Mary
Father Craigen William Mother Anne Smith TAYLOR
At Geelong 82 years 1966 Reg#18216
The families are on the electoral rolls and if I can type them up if you wish.
Do you think you could avoid typing in uppercase please. It is difficult to read and can indicate shouting :)
Cheers :)
Cando
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Given Cando's mention of Leslie, Aberdeenshire, this obit to a James CRAIGEN in 1925 might be relevant.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16200505
MR. J. CRAIGEN.
The death occurred on Sunday night of Mr. James Craigen, builder and contractor,
of The Avenue, Ashfield. He was born in the parish of Leslie, Aberdeenshire, and after
a short stay in London, South Africa, and Perth settled in Melbourne, where he was a
member of the Builders' and Contractors' Association.
For 40 years he was an elder of the Presbyterian Church, being associated with the
Richmond and Kew congregations. Two years ago he carne to Ashfield.
His only surviving son Is the Rev. J. A. Craigen, of The Rock, the other son being
killed at Ypres In 1917. His wife and two daughters also survive:Miss Catherine in
Kew (Melbourne), and Miss Mary, in Ashfield.
A funeral service was held at the residence yesterday morning by Revs. R., J. H.
McGowan, and N. Hey. after which the coffin was conveyed to Melbourne for Interment.
NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html
1925 reg 783/1925 CRAIGEN James father James, mother Catherine at Ashfield
regards,
Ros
(welcome RS McCarthy from me too :) )
Death notices http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16187021 and
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2052585
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Ros I had found that notice and was in the middle of following the names of James' parents on the census.
1925 reg 783/1925 CRAIGEN James father James, mother Catherine at Ashfield
James was buried at Brighton Cemetery, Vic and their records are not online so can't find his age.
It is possible that James CRAIGEN who died in Sydney is a brother to Wm's father Wm born c1844. The 1851 census has a Wm born Leslie, Aberdeen aged 7 with parents James and Catherine Milne. On the 1861 there is a son James aged 7 years but Wm is not with the family. Bit rushed so unable to type up the census info.
Cando
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The James Craigen mentioned by Ros and Cando above was buried in Brighton Cemetery on Jan 26 1925 age 71. Also in the same grave are Catherine Robena Craigen age 53 of South Yarra (buried 18 Feb 1946) and Mary Maud O'Brien age 78 of Canterbury (buried 2 May 1973), I would assume these are the daughters mentioned in the obituary.
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Hello - I am doing some research from Scotland with an Australian lady who has a picture of a man - in an envelope along with other family photos - the printed bit says J Craigen and then Aberdeen.
In this family history there is an Alexander Craigen Birth ABT. 1843 • Drainie, Morayshire whose parents were John Craigend and Jean Proctor - he had siblings James, Jean, John, Helen, Ann and Margaret
Had hoped there might be a connection but now I think that J Craigen was the photographer as the reverse is also copied and it says J Craigen Photographer 16 George St Aberdeen
Sorry to mislead you
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Hi im not sure if i will be able to help but my husbands father is James Craigen who comes from the Black Isle my husbands name is Scott Craigen they lived in Manoora in South Australia if i can help with anything i will.