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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: Rosalie21 on Wednesday 03 August 11 19:31 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for help please. My Great Aunt Rose Ann Baxter married Arthur Selby Dalgliesh
in Canada 1912? had a son in Canada then moved to New Zealand. I’ve traced all the family
even the living relatives however none of them know much. They went to Canada from the
UK on their way to New Zealand I don't know why they went independently or to Canada
maybe because he was at sea
My question is when did they go to New Zealand from Canada, did she go by herself with
her son or did she travel with her husband. Her husband was a captain and so they
could have gone to New Zealand independently.
Thanks in advance for your help Rosalie
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Hello there.
This appears to be the marriage ...
https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/MN55-4G1/p1
You can search for them in the 1911 census for free at this link ...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/
I don't believe there were any records kept for passengers outbound from Canada. Have you checked for New Zealand inbound passenger lists?
Polarbear
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Hi polarbear
I have the marriage thanks, however I've not tried the New Zealand inbound. I don't have access to world wide info only UK via ancestry and genes. Thanks for the links Rosalie
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Hi again.
You might check at your local library to see if they subscribe to Ancestry Library Edition. I believe this would give you access to most world records.
PB
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They must have arrived in New Zealand by 1919, as they both appear on the Electoral Rolls for that year.
For some reason, although they lived on the same street (and assumably in the same house) they have different towns listed (obviously a mistake, but I don't know which is the correct one!)
Dunedin South Roll (Otego)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, St. Clair, mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
After looking at the 1928, I think the St. Kilda is the correct one:
1928 Dunedin South
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, S.K. SS Tahiti, master mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
There are several more Rolls showing address changes/occupation changes for them up to and including Arthur's retirement, if you are interested.
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Hi again.
You might check at your local library to see if they subscribe to Ancestry Library Edition. I believe this would give you access to most world records.
PB
Hi PB
Our library do subscribe to Ancestry Library Edition not been in for a while will call them this afternoon fingers crossed thanks for the reminder. Rosalie
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They must have arrived in New Zealand by 1919, as they both appear on the Electoral Rolls for that year.
For some reason, although they lived on the same street (and assumably in the same house) they have different towns listed (obviously a mistake, but I don't know which is the correct one!)
Dunedin South Roll (Otego)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, St. Clair, mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
After looking at the 1928, I think the St. Kilda is the correct one:
1928 Dunedin South
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, S.K. SS Tahiti, master mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
There are several more Rolls showing address changes/occupation changes for them up to and including Arthur's retirement, if you are interested.
Hi bbart
Yes please any information would be helpful thanks for the offer.
Rosalie
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I'll leave it up to you to figure out which is father and which is son, expecially in 1949, where it appears that Rosie is living in two places at once?
I also found an earlier one, so the ship from Canada now has a smaller window of time.
1914 Wellington (Wellington East Supplemental Roll)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Salek Street, ship's officer
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Salek Street, married
1919 Dunedin South (Otego)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, St. Clair, mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
1928 Dunedin South (Otago)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Nile street, S.K. SS Tahiti, master mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Nile street, St. Kilda, married
1938 Remuera (Auckland)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 5 St. Stephens Avenue, C4, marine engineer
Dalgliesh, Mary Isabel, 5 St. Stephens Avenue, C4, married
1938 Auckland, Auckland East
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 22 St. George's Bay Road, C4, master mariner
Dalgliesh, Rosie, 22 St. George's Bay Road, C4, married
1946 Otahuhu (Auckland)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Ridge Rd., Howick, compass adjuster
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Ridge Rd., Howick, married
1949 Otahuhu (Auckland)
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Ridge Rd., Howick, compass adjuster
Dalgliesh, Rosie, Ridge Rd., Howick, married
1949 Otago - St. Kilda
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 181 Victoria Road, marine surveyor
Dalgliesh, Rose Ann, 181 Victoria Road, married
1954 Otago - St. Kilda
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 11 Wilson Avenue, marine surveyor
Dalgliesh, Rose Ann, 11 Wilson Avenue, married
1957 Otago - St. Kilda Main Roll
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 11 Wilson Avenue, marine surveyor
Dalgliesh, Rose Ann, 11 Wilson Avenue, married
1963 Otago - St. Kilda
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, 11 Wilson Avenue, retired
Dalgliesh, Rose Ann, 11 Wilson Avenue, married
1917 WW1 Reserve Rolls, 2nd Division (I included all the Dalgliesh, in case of relations)
Dalgliesh, Albert, Labourer, 18 Oriental St., Petone
Dalgliesh, Fredrick William Robert, Miner, Buller Rd., Reefton
Dalgliesh, Henry Allan, Shepherd, Ohau
Dalgliesh, Richard William, Clerk, 11 Gladstone Rd, Napier
Dalgliesh, Arthur Selby, Master Mariner, 31 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin
Dalgliesh, Charles Stewart, Fields Inspector, Department of Agriculture, Hokitika
Dalgliesh, John Hoble, Woollen-worker, 25 Church St West, Timaru
Hope it all helps!
~Barb~
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Hi barb
This is great Sorting out which is the son should not be a problem as he died 29th december 1949 - Dunedin. New Zealand.
When I've finished sorting out the tree I'll be passing it on to their living relatives.
Thanks for your help it takes me a step nearer to finishing this leg of my family tree
Rosalie
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Hello Rosalie. Welcome to the Canada board... Please don't use wrong dates and question marks...( I see what you were trying to say but as you can see it looked as though you did not have the information, so using up resources)
From the Index to the Captains Registers of Lloyd’s of London (Guildhall Library Ms 18567)
DALGLIESH, Arthur Selby b. Newcastle on Tyne 1881 002347 changed to 004911 (vol. 76) Hull 1906 (South Shields 1909 vol.76) Steam Extra vol.76 1906-09 http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capsD.pdf
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Archives New Zealand Head Office Wellington holds passenger lists for nearly all ships arriving in New Zealand for the period 1883-1973.
If you can't find them, you may be able to trace him through ship's crew lists
http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKLogs,CrewLists.html
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Rosalie, please tie up loose ends on the thread you start on that board.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=iabtp26221s423itro6odmf253&topic=486602.0
Easy to find, just use the search above on page and put in the names & your username
Have also noted that there are other searches online on the same subjects...on other sites, where they also ask you to not duplicate resources
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Sorry
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will not ask anything else on this site
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Don't know why, as I didn't say "don't use the site" I simply asked you to please take the time to find your old queries so that you don't duplicate resources. If you help a bit on the board, and I think you do, I ask you to imagine finding your exact same answers several times in other areas. Please consider that these are people who are willing to share their time and resources..
All I can say is, if you are going, you're missing out on a fabulous help site. :D J.J.
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Get back here, Rosalie! JJ has to point out the doubles so that the people helping don't get discouraged because they've spent a lot of time searching only to find it's already been answered elsewhere. Now you know, so no harm, no foul, as they say!
Now, back to business! ;D
I have the marriage registration of Arthur and Rose (the real one, not the IGI/family search transcription). It seems there was a change in occupation after they married, as he was farming in Sidney, British Columbia at the time they married. They married in Vancouver, which is (today) a 2.5 hour trip by a big ferry..... so in 1911? I'm quite curious now as to how they even met. I can't imagine how Rose would feel thinking she was going to be a farmer's wife in an absolutley gorgeous part of Vancouver Island, only to have him turn into a seafaring man....
PM your email if you'd like a copy sent over to you. Being an older record, it doesn't haven't a ton of info, but it still has lots of interesting tidbits.
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Get back here, Rosalie! JJ has to point out the doubles so that the people helping don't get discouraged because they've spent a lot of time searching only to find it's already been answered elsewhere. Now you know, so no harm, no foul, as they say!
Now, back to business! ;D
I have the marriage registration of Arthur and Rose (the real one, not the IGI/family search transcription). It seems there was a change in occupation after they married, as he was farming in Sidney, British Columbia at the time they married. They married in Vancouver, which is (today) a 2.5 hour trip by a big ferry..... so in 1911? I'm quite curious now as to how they even met. I can't imagine how Rose would feel thinking she was going to be a farmer's wife in an absolutley gorgeous part of Vancouver Island, only to have him turn into a seafaring man....
PM your email if you'd like a copy sent over to you. Being an older record, it doesn't haven't a ton of info, but it still has lots of interesting tidbits.
Hi bbart
I have sent you a PM. Thanks for your help it is very much appreciated your a gem, you have now started me on a new journey
Rosalie