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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: jeanlit on Monday 01 August 11 06:51 BST (UK)
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While looking through papers on Trove, I came across an article which stated that Mr T J Trowell was a member of the Forbes Chess Club in 1897.
I have been unable to find out anything about him.
So, my questions are:
Who was he?
What was his occupation?
What was he doing in Central New South Wales at that time?
Or was he just visiting? and If so, who was he visiting?
Any information will be appreciated.
Jean
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Jean,
Some info.
1895 Sands Directory
Leichhardt
Trowell Thomas J, 114 Marion St (South Side)
29th June 1887 NSW Police Gazette.
A report on goods stolen from the shop of Thomas J Trowell at Marrickville Rd Marrickville.
Also a Thomas J Trowell appears in a couple of Melbourne Directories in the 1860s & 1870s!
Regards
Gerry
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1886 Sands Directory
Trowell Thomas J, accountant, 47 Wilson St, Newtown.
1887
Trowell Thomas J, accountant, 47 Wilson St, Newtown.
Trowell T. J., Globe Hotel, 31 King St.
Gerry
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Hi Jean
This article says he was a commercial traveller.
The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser (NSW : 1843 - 1893) Thursday 17 December 1891 p 6 Article . . . . . , Thomas John Trowell, a commercial traveller, residing at Wallsend, said he had been acting manager at the . . . .
It appears Thomas John TROWELL was associated with selling Drapery in VIC. He married in VIC in 1860 to Isabella SCOTT who died in 1883. They had at least five children. One son was Frederick Gilbert who married in NSW. It seems TJ TROWELL married again in NSW and had a second family?
Thomas and William TROWELL, and two others, arrived in VIC on the ship LADY BIRD in July 1853. William died in NSW as did Thomas John TROWELL.
Essie
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There are TROWELL's on the Unassisted Immigrants index at PROV
http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=23
1886, 1887 Sands Directory
TROWELL Thomas J Accountant 46 Wilson Street Newtown
1895
TROWELL Thomas J 114 Renwick Street, Leichhardt
13195/1901
TROWELLThomas J
Father Thomas J Mother Ann
District Charlestown
Cando
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Melbourne Directory 1861
Trowell, Thomas, fancy repository , 48 Clarendon-street, Em H.
Melbourne Directory 1870
RICHMOND
Rowena Parade - South Side.
Trowell Thomas J.
Melbourne Directory 1875
BRIGHTON
Trowell Thomas J., Hay Street.
Gerry
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Thomas John TROWELL was born 21 Oct 1839 at Camberwell, Surrey. Father Thomas TROWELL Mother Ann HEATH.
Cand0
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In a spot of bother in Vic
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ehw/
Cando
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He was Mr T J TROWELL of Adelaide at the time of his eldest dau marriage in Melbourne.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ehx/
Cando
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Probably not related but.
There was a T. J. Trowell & Co listed under Brokers, Agents and Commission Agents (General) in the Commercial & Trades Directory SA 1882-83.
Gerry
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Death notice for Isabella of Melbourne....he is noted as of Adelaide
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ehy/
Cando
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A NSW marriage for TJ
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ehz/
Cando
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Thanks very much to
Gerry (especially the fact that he was an accountant and that he lived in Adelaide)
Essie (especially the ship the family arrived in and the year) and I will try to follow the children of the first marriage just in case that is the connection I'm looking for.
Cando (Mother's maiden name being Heath confirmed that the Norman Heath Trowell who enlisted in WWI was Thomas and Emma B 's son. Interesting, in his enlistment application he stated that both parents were dead, although I haven't found Emma's death at all. Also the year and place of birth of Thomas gave me details for the 1841 and 1851 census.)
So, with all your help, I have found quite a lot about Thomas J Trowell, and soon will find the connection with Forbes. It appears he moved around a fair bit so there is a lot of possibilities.
Thanks once again
Jean
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Jean,
Some Victorian births.
Name:Isabella Annie Trowell
F: Thomas Joh Trowell
M: Isobella Scott
Birth place: Emerald Hill, Victoria
Reg year: 1861
Reg place: Victoria
Reg No: 508
Name: Frederick Gilber Trowell
F: Thomas John Trowell
M: Isabella Scott
Birth place: Prahran, Victoria
Reg year: 1863
Reg place: Victoria
Reg No: 4154
Name: Lily Nest Tryphena Trowell
F: Thomas John Trowell
M: Isabella Scott
Birth place: Prahran, Victoria
Reg year: 1868
Reg place: Victoria
Reg No: 4794
Name: Bona Bioletta Trowell
F: Thomas John Trowell
M: Isabella Scott
Birth place: Richmond, Victoria
Reg year: 1871
Reg place: Victoria
Reg No: 25685
Name: George Trowell
F: Thomas John Trowell
M: Isabella Scott
Birth place: Bright, Victoria
Reg year: 1875
Reg place: Victoria
Reg No: 7362
Gerry
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NSW births,
Name:Victor Trowell
F: Thomas J Trowell
M: Emma B
Birth place: NSW
Reg year: 1886
Reg place: Woollahra NSW.
Reg No: 10624
Name:Arthur L Trowell
F: Thomas J Trowell
M: Emma
Birth place: NSW
Reg year: 1888
Reg place: Wallsend NSW.
Reg No: 33495
Name:Norman H Trowell
F: Thomas J Trowell
M: Emma B
Birth place: NSW
Reg year: 1896
Reg place: Leichhardt NSW.
Reg No: 22636
Gerry
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1841 census ref HO107 1051 21 4
john
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Thank you Gerry
Thomas and Isabella certainly got a bit poetic with their second and third daughters names! Lily Nest Tryphena and Bona Bioletta.
I did find on Trove that they had daughters on 15 Sep 1867 and 1 Aug 1871 but no names given.
I found Frederick Gilbert Trowell died in 1955 in Sydney, but I can't access the Victorian BDM Indexes.
Many thanks
Jean
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John
Thanks for the reference to 1841 Census.
Can you work out Thomas' occupation? I'll try to attach a copy.
Thanks
Jean
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Hello,
Occupation looks like
Egg merchant ?? I've never seen that before maybe it isn't ;D
Regards
Alison
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Jean,
Some early death registrations.
George Trowell
Death place: Victoria
F: Thomas John
M: Isabella Scott
1875
Reg place: Victoria
Reg year: 5887
Victor Trowell
Death place: NSW
F: Thomas J
M: Emma B
1887
Reg place: Petersham, NSW
Reg year: 2785
Gerry
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The Vitorian Government Gazette 4th september 1865 shows that Thomas John Trowell, warehouseman of Melbourne was in a list of shareholders of the INDEPENDENT PROSPECTING GOLD MINING COMPANY (REGISTERED).
Thomas John Trowell had 350 shares at 1 pound each and the mining operation was for Dry Creek Jericho Victoria.
Gerry
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I think that the Trowells arriving on the Lady Bird into Geelong on 19th July 1853 are the correct family and it looks like 4 persons, probably siblings.
They were An, Charles, Thomas & William.
The 1870 Melbourne Directory shows a Thomas Trowell residing at Rowena Pde Richmond.
A newspaper article for Friday 26th September 1862 page 5, has a Charles Trowell 21, missing from his home in Rowena Terrance Richmond.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/205982?zoomLevel=
Gerry
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Baptism for Thomas John Trowell
Born 21st October 1839.
Baptism No 2198 January 15th 1840, St George Camberwell Parish, Surrey.
Father, Thomas, labourer. Mother Ann.
Could this be the 1851 Census for Charles 9, William 8, Ann 6 and their mother Ann 31, (widow). No thomas though!
Looks like the address was 4 Park Place Hatcham, Kent.
Gerry
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If they were having children in 1867 suspect that's NOT the 1851 census unless Ann was having illegitamate children?
John
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A friend looked up the 1851 census for Thomas Trowell, and found one, age 11, visitor, at residence of Benjamin Boulton, butcher, Lambeth.
Interesting about Charles' going missing - I wonder what happened to him?
Thanks Alison - your guess is as good as mine for the occupation.
Jean
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Thanks very much to
Gerry (especially the fact that he was an accountant and that he lived in Adelaide)
Essie (especially the ship the family arrived in and the year) and I will try to follow the children of the first marriage just in case that is the connection I'm looking for.
Cando (Mother's maiden name being Heath confirmed that the Norman Heath Trowell who enlisted in WWI was Thomas and Emma B 's son. Interesting, in his enlistment application he stated that both parents were dead, although I haven't found Emma's death at all. Also the year and place of birth of Thomas gave me details for the 1841 and 1851 census.)
So, with all your help, I have found quite a lot about Thomas J Trowell, and soon will find the connection with Forbes. It appears he moved around a fair bit so there is a lot of possibilities.
Thanks once again
Jean
Hi Jean (and other Trowell tracers),
This is my first first entry on this site . I am Norman Heath Trowell's gran-daughter and can give information which may fill in some missing links for you - I am also interested in gaining some information. Until now, it has been a dead-end in tracing my grandfather's past. Will wait and see if I have done this correctly and this is received.
Suzanne
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Thanks very much to
Gerry (especially the fact that he was an accountant and that he lived in Adelaide)
Essie (especially the ship the family arrived in and the year) and I will try to follow the children of the first marriage just in case that is the connection I'm looking for.
Cando (Mother's maiden name being Heath confirmed that the Norman Heath Trowell who enlisted in WWI was Thomas and Emma B 's son. Interesting, in his enlistment application he stated that both parents were dead, although I haven't found Emma's death at all. Also the year and place of birth of Thomas gave me details for the 1841 and 1851 census.)
So, with all your help, I have found quite a lot about Thomas J Trowell, and soon will find the connection with Forbes. It appears he moved around a fair bit so there is a lot of possibilities.
Thanks once again
Jean
Hi Jean (and other Trowell tracers),
This is my first first entry on this site . I am Norman Heath Trowell's gran-daughter and can give information which may fill in some missing links for you - I am also interested in gaining some information. Until now, it has been a dead-end in tracing my grandfather's past. Will wait and see if I have done this correctly and this is received.
Suzanne
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Thanks very much to
Gerry (especially the fact that he was an accountant and that he lived in Adelaide)
Essie (especially the ship the family arrived in and the year) and I will try to follow the children of the first marriage just in case that is the connection I'm looking for.
Cando (Mother's maiden name being Heath confirmed that the Norman Heath Trowell who enlisted in WWI was Thomas and Emma B 's son. Interesting, in his enlistment application he stated that both parents were dead, although I haven't found Emma's death at all. Also the year and place of birth of Thomas gave me details for the 1841 and 1851 census.)
So, with all your help, I have found quite a lot about Thomas J Trowell, and soon will find the connection with Forbes. It appears he moved around a fair bit so there is a lot of possibilities.
Thanks once again
Jean
Hi Jean (and other Trowell tracers),
This is my first first entry on this site . I am Norman Heath Trowell's gran-daughter and can give information which may fill in some missing links for you - I am also interested in gaining some information. Until now, it has been a dead-end in tracing my grandfather's past. Will wait and see if I have done this correctly and this is received.
Suzanne
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Just a quick one - I think Egg Merchant may well be correct for Thomas senior's occupation in 1841- when you look at others close by the TROWELL family there are similar occupations - baker, butcher, haberdasher, oilman, beef ? shopkeeper.
Judith
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Isabella is buried at ST KILDA GENERAL CEMETERY
ISABELLA TROWELL
Date of Service 30/06/1882
Age 42
Location INDEPENDENT, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT C GRAVE 142
Public Grave No
Tenure Date IN PERPETUITY - FOR ALL TIME
No others are with her.
Sue
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From TROVE
Death Notices for Isabella
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/43336185
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11545629
Daughter's marriage notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/43099903
Judith
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Hi,
only a peripheral connection, but my ancestor was William McPherson; his brother Thomas McPherson married Isabella Annie Trowell, who was the daughter of your Thomas John Trowell.
Can you keep me in mind if you bump into any of Thomas and Isabella's descendants in your search?
Thanks,
Sean Halpin