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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: tracey pat on Sunday 31 July 11 16:40 BST (UK)
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good afternoon
I am looking for a edward waterman born 1818 suffolk parents, at present i am unable to get his birth records but have his marriage certificate which he married a matha knock, i have reason to think that his father was also and edward and that his wife was a Jane kristrick not sure of the spelling on the mothers surname, if anyone could help i was be greatful. kind regards Tracey
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hi, you don't give any places - were they married Hindlesham?? as the suffolk burial index has:
Edward Waterman bur 10/6/1884 age 64 (1820) Hindlesham
if it is him it narrows down dob.
Diddy
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that record has him living Tattignstone and the 1881 census has
Edward WATERMAN Pauper Inmate Wid Male 63 Layham, Suffolk, England Agricultural Labourer
inmate of Tattingstone union workhouse
that means he was born Layham
Diddy
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the family search pilot site has his baptism as :
Edward Waterman 22/3/1818 hadleigh s/o Edward & Jane
Hadleigh is just up the road from layham so this makes sense. thta would seem to agree with your theory. no surname for mother yet.
Diddy
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Marriage
Edward Waterman
Jane Willis, widow
both of the parish
12th October, 1812
Hintlesham
Possible first marriage for Jane
Henry Willis
Jane Martin
both of the parish
2nd March, 1807
St. Peter, Ipswich
and a burial
Henry Willis
17th May, 1809
aged 28yrs
Kersey
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thank you so much for this information, it would make sense, and be around the right dates, but i can be sure if it is the right person or not, is there anyway i can get some information with regards to brothers sisters etc.
I am very grateful for this information and well done on getting this for me - the Edward waterman that died in the pauper house is the man i am talking about and his birth i have est at being around 1818 - it is his parents i am trying to get, he appears on the 1841 census as Edward warterman married to Martha knock in hintlesham. his son Samuel is my 3rd gt grand father .
n the 1841 census it also shown another family of wartermans living next door to Edward, so i can only think that they could well have been brothers, but without a birth certificate or census i seem to be lost.
Many thanks for all your help
Tracey
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tracey - if you send me a PM with your email i can send you the complete list of Watermans in Hindlesham from the suffolk burial index.
Diddy
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siblings for Edward 1818:
mary Ann bap 22/3/1818 hadleigh
Eliza 10/12/1820
George William 9/4/1826
all on pilot site.
Diddy
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Hi Tracey Pat
this thread seems to be very familiar ;)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,184588.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,171451.0.html
How can we best help you so we are not repeating previous look ups ?
Pat ...
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Edward Waterman, senior and his wife Jane are both buried in Hintlesham:
Edward Waterman bc.1777 bur.28/4/1841 Hintlesham (died 2 months before census)
Jane bc.1788 bur.15/1/1869 Hintlesham.
Jane thus still alive in 1841/51/61 census when birthplace given as Hadleigh, Suffolk
Think that Edward bc.1777 was probably born in Hintlesham but early records for Hintlesham are not available online.
The only 2 early burials I can see in Hintlesham are:
William bc.1745 buried 24/6/1796
Mary bc.1741 buried 27/4/1824
If he was indeed born at Hintlesham then this couple seem to be the likely parents:
William Waterman of Hintlesham, married Mary Allen 25/12/1770 Sproughton, Suffolk (marriage on FindMyPast)
In 1851 Census at Hintlesham (ref.HO107-1798-37-16)
Jane Warterman 64 born Hadleigh Suffolk
John Willis 44 son born Layham, Suffolk
+ 2 lodgers
This would support the marriages found so at least one son born from her first marriage.
As far as I can see from online records at familysearch Edward and Jane had the following children (although seems to be gap between marriage in 1812 and 1st known baptisms in1818):
Edward bp.22/3/1818 Hadleigh )
Mary bp.22/3/1818 Hadleigh ) twins perhaps
Eliza bp.10/12/1820 Hadleigh
Martha bp.5/9/1822 Chattisham, bur.22/9/1822 Hintlesham
George William bp.9/4/1826 Hadleigh
Susanna bp.1/6/1828 Hintlesham
Sarah bp.14/2/1831 Hintlesham
Annette
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hi pat
Thank you for your comments, when i first started family history I came on here and a few very kind people helped me, we managed to find edward waterman in 1818 but i have not managed to find his parents, I dont feel that we are duplicating things, but if you feel that i am i am sorry.
I find it hard to explain what i am looking for as i am stuck.
from this site people have given me sincere help - which has not be duplicated apart from the first part which is edward waterman 1818 layham, its his parents and brothers and sisters that i am looking for
thanks for you help in the past
Kind regards
Tracey
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annette
Thank you so much for this information i have to go to work now so i will look at it tonight when i get home. ,
thanks again
Tracey
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How can we best help you so we are not repeating previous look ups ?
I just wondered how we could help you this time Tracey, to enable you to further your family history research.
I did not mean to offend in any way.
My sincere apologies.
Pat ...
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pat,
sorry i may of misunderstood your message,
i am trying to find the parents of edward waterman - and family
diddy and annette are helping me,as well.
can you sugest where i may get the birth cert of edwardwaterman 1818 layham suffolk ?
Tracey
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Tracey
can you sugest where i may get the birth cert of edwardwaterman 1818 layham suffolk ?
Prior to Civil Registration which began in 1837, births were not recorded. Prior to this date, family historians have to rely on church records. These occasionally give birth dates but normally just baptism dates are given.
Prior to 1813 parishes varied on the amount of information that was given in the registers but normally just the date of the baptism and the name of the child and parents are given, and sometimes the maiden name of the mother.
After 1813, churches began to use pre-printed registers with space for the above information as well as the father's occupation and the family's abode. In rural areas, this would just have been a village.
The best you can hope for with Edward is that someone can look up the original entry and give you his father's occupation.
Rick :)