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Title: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: donna17 on Sunday 31 July 11 15:46 BST (UK)
hi,im having trouble finding a marriage, michael grady married mary ellen says formerly stokes on her daughters birth certificate, michael was born in county mayo in 1850 and mary was born in wem,st martins,shropshire. they had there first child in frodsham, lancashire in 1882, could anyone help please :) donna
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 31 July 11 16:24 BST (UK)
they had there first child in frodsham, lancashire in 1882,

Frodsham is in Cheshire! ;D

The nearest marriage I can find is in Salford:

June qtr 1878
Salford district   vol 8d, page 180
Grady, Miachael
+ and on the same page +
Deegan, Mary Ellen

Is there any chance that Mary Ellen was married before?
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: jacques on Sunday 31 July 11 16:34 BST (UK)
Yes I came up with the same  as above.

1881Both  married living Frodsham Cheshire  No children
1891 at bake House Lane Latchford Cheshire with following children
John H  son 9    (1982)  B Frodsham Cheshire
Thomas  "    6                B Warrington Lancs
William    "   4                       "               "
Mary E.   "    2                B Latchford Cheshire.

Theres this Birth on BMd John Hubert Grady Sept qtr 1882 Runcorn (Cheshire) 8a 223.
Yousaid first child born 1887  which would be William.  So looking like this was Mary Ellen 2nd Marriage.
Will look for a marriage in Lancs Deegan/Grady

Pam
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: donna17 on Sunday 31 July 11 16:38 BST (UK)
hi, yes she could possibly been married before as she was 31 before she had her first child, she had john h grady in 1882, thomas in 1885,william in 1887 and a daughter mary ellen in 1889 born in latchford, thomas and william born in warrington, cheshire is it! lol sorry im new on here so just pleased i managed to get a post up :)
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: donna17 on Sunday 31 July 11 16:41 BST (UK)
i did find the marriage to mary ellen deegan but then looked to see if i could find a stokes who marrieda deegan and nothing showed up
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: mosiefish on Sunday 31 July 11 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi,

If you look at www.lancashirebmd.org uk for 1878 you will see that Mary E Deegan (transcribed as May)  married John McQuillan and Michael Grady married Mary J Muldoon/Muldon.

Back to the drawing board.

Mo

Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 31 July 11 17:01 BST (UK)
I can't find anything to match. Frodsham is Cheshire by the way.

C
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: jacques on Sunday 31 July 11 17:04 BST (UK)
Hello again Donna

On GenesReunited there is a "Patricia" also researching a Michael Grady born 1850 in Mayo Ireland.
May be worth getting in contact may save you some time

Good Luck
Pam
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: donna17 on Sunday 31 July 11 17:49 BST (UK)
hi jacques that will be my mum looking aswell thanks anyway, been looking for ages, i found in 1875 a michael grady from lancaster in the criminal registers served 5yrs for unlawful wounding, dont know if its him but could anyone tell me if they were allow to marry in prisons at this time?
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: andrewalston on Sunday 31 July 11 17:59 BST (UK)
CheshireBMD shows births which match all the children in the 1891 census entry, which probably means that the couple were pretty truthful about their own details too.
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: andrewalston on Sunday 31 July 11 18:29 BST (UK)
... Then I realised that St. Martins and Wem are 15 miles apart, so Mary Ellen may not be that reliable.

Wem had its own registration district, while St. Martins came under Oswestry.

No Mary Ellen Stokes under either of them in the right timeframe, but there is a Mary Elizabeth Stokes in Oswestry Q3 of 1847.
Title: Re: michael grady/mary ellen stokes
Post by: andrewalston on Sunday 31 July 11 18:52 BST (UK)
The girl born in St Martins in 1847 appears with her parents William and Elizabeth in 1851 and 1861. William is an Ag Lab in 1861.

There are two plain Mary Stokes registered in Oswestry to match the age we need for 1881 & 1891. One of these is with parents Job and Mary in 1851 & 1861. Job is a labourer in a coal mine in 1861.