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My great great grandfather George Woods was born around 1850 in Cavan, joined RIC in 1868 and married Susan Philips in 1876. I have his RIC records and his marriage cert but can't find a birth cert or whereabouts in Cavan he was from, his father was also called George. Can anybody help me? Thanks, Brucky
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Full Civil registration started in Ireland in 1864, so there will be no birth cert for George.
What denomination is your Woods family ?
What occupation was George Snr ?
see :
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)
Shane
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Griffiths Valuation has a George Woods renting property in Yewer Lane, townland of Portaliff or Townparks, Killeshandra, Cavan in 1857. Might be worth checking out the relevant church records to see if this fits.
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
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Hi
George was Church of Ireland and his father also George was listed as a Farmer.
Thanks
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Hi
I have two marriage records, the first handwritten one lists George as his father but also have another marriage cert from North Tipperary Genealogy Centre and that gives his fathers name as John. He had nine children including five sons William, George, James, Alfred & Robert so think George is probably the correct name.
Brucky
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According to the PRONI website, Killashandra COI parish has births, marriages and burial records back to 1735. Copies are in PRONI on microfilm. You may be able to find out more from that source.
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copies of the same records are also available in the Representative Church Body Library in Rathfarnham, Co. Dublin.
Shane
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if you want to order a civil marriage cert from the GRO to confirm details of the father - these look like the required references :
Name: Susan Phillips
Registration district: Nenagh
Event type: Marriage
Year: 1876
Volume: 18 / page: 429
name: George Woods
[same index details as Susan]
see :
Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Shane
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Thanks so much for all your help. Will contact GRO Roscommon and also Rathfarnham next week and see if they have any more information.
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Brucky
My great-great-grandfather was also called George Woods and lived in Cavan. But he is a contemporary of yours, and so not the same guy. But, perhaps coincidentally, a witness at my George's marriage in 1873 was Susanna Phillips, ie same name as your great-great-grandmother.
The marriage certificate for my George Woods to Ann Gilliland states:
George Woods and Ann Gilliland were married on 13 March 1873 at Loughmourne Presbyterian Church, parish of Aughnamullen, Castleblayney, co Monaghan. George Woods was a bachelor of "full" age (no figure given) and a farmer residing at Pottle, parish of Bailieborough, co Cavan. His father was Charles Woods, farmer. Ann Gilliland was a spinster aged 20 years, no profession, of Aghmakerr (writing isn't too clear), parish of Aughnamullen, co Monaghan. Her father was Joseph Gilliland, farmer. The witnesses were James G Mahood and Susanna Phillips.
Although married in a Presbyterian Church (bride's connection), George Woods was Church of Ireland, like your man. Probably also coincidentally, I note that your George was in the RIC, and my family included several policemen (although later on in Glasgow).
George Woods and Ann Gilliland lived for many years at Mullantra, Kingscourt, co Cavan. Their children included: Thomas born 1876, George, Annie, Alice born 1878, Robert born 1879, Letitia born c 1881, Emily born 1881, Joseph born 1886, William Henry born c 1890 and Isaac born 1894.
I posted more information about the family on this site last year. You will find my post down below in the Cavan forum (last post was 7 March 2010).
Anyway, maybe all just little bits of coincidence - or maybe a connection still to be discovered.
Regards
David
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My great great grandfather George Woods was born around 1850 in Cavan, joined RIC in 1868 and married Susan Philips in 1876. I have his RIC records and his marriage cert but can't find a birth cert or whereabouts in Cavan he was from, his father was also called George. Can anybody help me? Thanks, Brucky
I am looking for the very same George Woods who married Susan Phillips. I would love to find out morefrom you. My father who is 81 is hoping I can find out about his mother Frances Mary who was George's daughter born 1892. How are you related? My cousin in northern Ireland is the grandson of Frances's brother Robert
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Hi
I have two marriage records, the first handwritten one lists George as his father but also have another marriage cert from North Tipperary Genealogy Centre and that gives his fathers name as John. He had nine children including five sons William, George, James, Alfred & Robert so think George is probably the correct name.
Brucky
The records office in Rosscommon tols me he had 4 children Margaret,my grandmother was Frances , Alfred James who went to USA and Robert who was also in the
RIC
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Hi,
We're from the same family! I am delighted to hear from you and will share any information I have. George and Susan had ten children:-
Eliza Jane 1877
William 1879
Susan 1882
George 1884
Anne 1886
James 1888
Margaret 1890
Frances Mary 1892
Alfred James 1894
Robert John 1896
Eliza Jane was my great grandmother. I have George's RIC records and his death cert and some other information which I can give you.
Please send me a PM (personal message) and we can exchange email addresses. I look forward to hearing from you.
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Robert's was married to Aileen and they lived in Port Glenone and her daughter * had 4 sons. I have just got back in touch with the eldest who lives in Belfast and is called *, I will let him know that you have replied!
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I reckon you'll already have this, but I think I have just stumbled across your George Woods on the census returns for 1901:
George Woods, Lodger, Church of Ireland, Read & write, Aged 57 years, RIC pensioner, Married, Born co Cavan.
He is living as a lodger in the house of Bernard Beirne, a farmer, in Kilmore, Roscommon. The other occupants are relations of Bernard Beirne wih the surname Dooner.
Maybe that's some help to you.
David
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Hi Brucky and Mariaserena,
My brother and 2 sisters and I are currently researching our family tree and our great Grandfather was William (brother to Eliza Jane and Frances Mary) our GG grandfather was George, so it appears we are also related to you both.
We've just been over to Ireland to Strokestown and Dublin and would love to hear from you both so that we could share information found.
Regards
Susan Woods
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Hi again Brucky,
Do you know who George was living with when he died in Staffordshire?
Regards Susan
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Hi Mariaserena,
Do you know who George was living with when he died in Staffordshire?
Regards Susan
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Susan
While our families are not known to be linked, you will see my post above that mentions my George Woods (a contemporary of yours) who had a Susanna Phillips as a witness at his wedding. Maybe just a coincidence.
I recently had my DNA tested and the results of my Woods y-chromosome are: M258+M423+S185+ or I2a1b2 (per ISOGG classifications) or I2a2b (per FTDNA classifications). My group is also known as I-L161 or I2a-Isles-D2. (So many ways to say the same thing!)
If by any chance your brother ever gets a DNA test, I would be very interested should his DNA results indicate any family connection with my Woods family.
Regards
David
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I am new to this so please accept my apology in advance if I have written anything in the wrong format. My connected relative is Robert Woods from Pottle who married Susan Boyle Galbolie in 1864. Thanks to a previous entry I think I can confirm I have both their death certificates. I had a death certificate for a Robert Woods in 1917. He was listed as a coachman, which was his last known occupation and I knew from the family he was a “horse trader” but as the family was from Cavan and then Louth and Co Down/ Belfast I was not sure of the link to the address on the death certificate, Ballinalieve, Moynalty, Meath. However the entry pointed me to Roberts sister Mary who married Hugh McBirney in 1863. Mary died in 1903 and her son who lived in Ballinalieve, Moynalty, Meath caused her to be moved there for burial, from Kingscout, Bailieborogh, Co Cavan. It appears to be just over the county line. The 1901 census shows not just her son Hugh McBirney living there but Margaret and Anne Woods, his two single aunts, aged Anne 57 and Margaret 60 in 1901.
So thanks this was really helpful.
It therefore appears that Charles and Elizabeth Woods may have had not only Robert, George, James and Mary but also Margaret and Anne.