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Title: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: leftalone on Wednesday 27 July 11 00:51 BST (UK)
I´m trying to find my mother´sfamily.

Joseph M CHERRIE born 1879

My grandfather, Joseph M CHERRIE was born 1879 at Airdrie ... can he be found on censuses please?

I think he married in 1910, can anyone tell me who he married?

Siblings
           Jeanie
           Benjamin
           Mary

Will appreciate all the help you can give.
Yv
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: Jimster on Wednesday 27 July 11 01:40 BST (UK)
Joseph Cherrie married to Mary Pritchard 1910 in Coatbridge

The record can be veiwed at scotlandspeople (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/) which is a pay per veiw site

You should also be able to find them quite easily on the census

Jim

Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:16 BST (UK)
Hi Yv,

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

I think this might be your Joseph in 1881, living at No. 65 Stewart's Land, Old Monkland Eastern:

Benjamin Cherrie, Head, age 25, born c 1856 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tube Screwer
Mary Cherrie, Wife, age 28, born c1853 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tailoress
James Cherrie, Son, age 5, born c1876 in Airdrie
Elizabeth L. Cherrie, Daughter, age 3, born c1878 in Airdrie
Joseph M. Cherrie, Son, age 1, born c1880 in Airdrie
Anne
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:22 BST (UK)
in 1891, living at Stewart Street, 64 Cliftonhill Buildings, Coatbridge:

Benjamin Cherrie, Head, age 35, born c 1856 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
Mary Cherrie, Wife, age 38, born c1853 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tailoress
James Cherrie, Son, age 15, born c1876 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
Elizabeth L. Cherrie, (Lizzie) Daughter, age 13, born c1878 in Airdrie
Joseph Cherrie, Son, age 11, born c1880 in Airdrie, Scholar
Benjamin Cherrie, Son, age 9, born c1882 in Coatbridge, Scholar
Archibald Cherrie, Son, age 7, born c1884 in Coatbridge, Scholar
Alexander Cherrie, Son, age 6, born c1885 in Airdrie, Scholar
Jeanie Cherrie, Daughter, age 2, born c1889 in Airdrie
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:34 BST (UK)
in 1901, living at 31 Southburn Road, New Monkland (Glenmavis/Airdrie) :

Benjamin Cherrie, Head, age 40, born c1861 in Airdrie, Occupation: Iron Turner
Bethia Cherrie, Wife, age 47, born c1854 in Fordyce, Banffshire
Joseph Cherrie, Son, age 22, born c1879 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
Benjamin Cherrie, Son, age 20, born c1881 in Coatbridge, Occupation: Iron Moulder's Apprentice
Alexander Cherrie, Son, age 16, born c1885 in Airdrie, Occupation: Iron Moulder's Apprentice
Archibald Cherrie, Son, age 12, born c1889 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
*Jane Cherrie, Daughter, age 2, born c1889 in Airdrie, Scholar
John Cherrie, Son, age 9, born c1892 in Airdrie, Scholar

*Probably 'Jeanie' with her age transcribed as 2 rather than 12?

I would think it would be worth downloading the images from Scotland's People for these 3 Censuses. Bethia might simply be a transcription error, but if not, then you have a second wife for Benjamin.

Anne
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:55 BST (UK)
There is also a British Army Pension Record for a Joseph Cherrie of Airdrie.

It confirms that he married Mary Pritchard on 1st April 1910 and that by 1915, they had 2 children, namely Mary Marshall Craib (or Craik) Cherrie, born 15th November 1912? and Benjamin Smith Cherrie born 17th? May? 1914. (Bits quite difficult to read)

Joseph was discharged from the Army Service Corps, 224th Coy., on 7th May 1915 aged 35 (date of birth listed as 9th September 1879)

Wife Mary was living at 20 Commonside Street, Airdrie.

I have sent you a PM regarding the Service Record.

Anne
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 27 July 11 14:27 BST (UK)
Hi Yv - you seem to have struck gold here!  :D

It looks like my guess about Joseph was right as Mary M C CHERRIE reached Barrow and married there - twice!

Marriages Jun 1935 
CHERRIE    Mary M C    (to Wilfred HARTLEY)    Barrow F.    8e   2096

Marriages Mar 1937
ALLPORT    Alfred    (HARTLEY)    Barrow F.    8e   1509   
ALLPORT    Alfred    (CHERRIE)    Barrow F.    8e   1509   
CHERRIE    Mary M C    (ALLPORT)    Barrow F.    8e   1509    
HARTLEY    Mary M C    (ALLPORT)    Barrow F.    8e   1509
I think this means the first marriage was dissolved/nullified.
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Friday 29 July 11 13:57 BST (UK)
I'm posting this on behalf of 'leftalone/Yv' who I think mistakenly sent this to me rather than replying on this thread:

"Many, many thanks to everyone who made the effort and responded to my queries. 
All the information was very useful and accurate. 
Indeed I was able to confirm much of the information, while I read some old letters my mother sent me yrs ago. 
Once again, your help has been very much appreciated."[/b][/i]

Anne
Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: Jimster on Friday 29 July 11 16:49 BST (UK)
Quote from: apanderson on Wednesday 27 July 11 10:34 BST (UK)
in 1901, living at 31 Southburn Road, New Monkland (Glenmavis/Airdrie) :

Benjamin Cherrie, Head, age 40, born c1861 in Airdrie, Occupation: Iron Turner
Bethia Cherrie, Wife, age 47, born c1854 in Fordyce, Banffshire
Joseph Cherrie, Son, age 22, born c1879 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
Benjamin Cherrie, Son, age 20, born c1881 in Coatbridge, Occupation: Iron Moulder's Apprentice
Alexander Cherrie, Son, age 16, born c1885 in Airdrie, Occupation: Iron Moulder's Apprentice
Archibald Cherrie, Son, age 12, born c1889 in Airdrie, Occupation: Tubework Labourer
*Jane Cherrie, Daughter, age 2, born c1889 in Airdrie, Scholar
John Cherrie, Son, age 9, born c1892 in Airdrie, Scholar

*Probably 'Jeanie' with her age transcribed as 2 rather than 12?

I would think it would be worth downloading the images from Scotland's People for these 3 Censuses. Bethia might simply be a transcription error, but if not, then you have a second wife for Benjamin.

Anne
using the free  search  method on SP  ;)

Mary Cherrie ms Marshall died in Coatbridge 1895 aged 42

And then

Benjamin Cherrie married Bethia Craib 1899 in St.George Midlothian

Regards
Jim




Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: leftalone on Saturday 30 July 11 02:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Jim,

I wasn´t sure about Bethia´s surname Craik or Craib.

I think we are quite a large family after all.  :)

Now I´m going to see what the SP method is... ;)

Regards
Yvonne

Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: leftalone on Saturday 30 July 11 02:31 BST (UK)
Thank you for the post, Anne.

oops!!!! I got a bit mixed up. Sorry :-[

Cheers

Yvonne

Title: Re: Cherrie / Vasey / Rogan families
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 02 August 11 08:37 BST (UK)
Airdrie Civic Memorial has a Benjamin Cherrie killed in WW1 listed - Joseph's younger brother.

See photographs here (Scottish War Memorials Project): http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=239&highlight=airdrie&mforum=warmemscot

CWGC:
Name: CHERRIE, BENJAMIN
Initials: B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 14/07/1916
Service No: S/7743
Additional information: Son of the late Benjamin and Mary Cherrie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 15 C.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

SNWM:Surname CHERRIE
Firstname Benjamin
Service Number S/7743
Date Death 14/07/1916
Place of birth Old Monkland Lanarkshire
Other 7th Bn.
SNWM roll THE SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Anne