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Title: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: leo on Monday 25 July 11 20:40 BST (UK)
What is most likely to be the church nearest to Penrihfwer?  It was a second marriage in 1906.  It appears the first wife died that year and he married again.  I do know that they used Trealaw cemetery for the burial of both the first wife and William when he died, but I am not sure if they would have gone there to get married.

The names were William  (James) Evans aged 61 and Bessie Sheppard (I think it was the name she would have married under as her children have that name) aged 45.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: Vasquez109 on Monday 25 July 11 21:12 BST (UK)
Is this the place near Tonypandy?
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: leo on Monday 25 July 11 21:22 BST (UK)
Is this the place near Tonypandy?

I would say that  Penrhiwfer is nearer to Gilfach Goch that Tonypandy.

Thank you
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: Vasquez109 on Monday 25 July 11 21:25 BST (UK)
Right....I was working on the original spelling! No wonder I couldnt find anything! Decided to look around the Trealaw area!
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 25 July 11 21:41 BST (UK)
Are you talking Church and Chapel?
There was a Zoar Chapel not far away in Pen-y-graig.

regards
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: Morganllan on Monday 25 July 11 22:50 BST (UK)
Hello  :)

Have you found them on 1911 Census? We're not allowed to post 1911 details on here because of copyright, but if you can find them it will say how long they had been married.

Penrhiwfer was in Llantrisant Parish, so here's the Genuki list of Chapels:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llantrisant/Chapels.html

Kind Regards
Morgan
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: leo on Tuesday 26 July 11 13:17 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies.  I have found them on the 1911 census and they had been married for 3 years.

I have looked on the link that Morgan gave but it doesn't give Trealaw church or would it have gone under another name?  I don't know the area very well so am not sure of the closest church as the crow flies so to speak.  But if the second wife was of a particular church I assume they would have got married there.

Would I be able to apply for their marriage certificate with the information I have got?

I have no idea whether it would be a church or a chapel so I'm including both.

Thanks
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 26 July 11 13:58 BST (UK)
you don't need to know where they married to get a certificate from the GRO. The reference to order is dec qtr 1907 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 1050 William Evans & Elizabeth Sheppard on the same page.
Usually you can get the reference from FreeBmd, but in this case there's a query over the page number for Elizabeth so that the 2 names do not show up on the same page.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

You can order using this site using the ref above

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/



Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: leo on Tuesday 26 July 11 20:10 BST (UK)
thanks for that osprey.  i may order a certificate but it would be useful if I knew the name of the church and the date on which they married.  Of course it poses another question what happened to the wife and her children when William died only 5 years later, that's the trouble it always poses more questions!

Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 26 July 11 21:11 BST (UK)
there's always the possibility that it was a register office wedding & the only way you'll get the details of that is to buy the cert.


 ;)
Title: Re: Nearest church to Penrifhwer
Post by: heddwch on Tuesday 26 July 11 21:40 BST (UK)
There was a  Zion welsh  Baptist chapel in Penrhiwfer which is now demolished.Penrhiwfer is near Williamstown in the Rhondda,
Happy searching
Heddwch