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Title: Completed John Douglas(SS)
Post by: cathie377 on Sunday 24 July 11 12:29 BST (UK)

I have hit a brick wall. 

Title: Re: John Douglas(SS)
Post by: emarbe on Sunday 24 July 11 14:23 BST (UK)

Hello Cathie

Do you know for certain that John married Eleanor Coutts?.
The reason I ask is that on the 1841 census all the family (including Eleanor) are born in the county.

I found this baptism for John Douglass on August 7th 1785 in Spittle, Tweedmouth. Parents given as Thomas and Phillis.
Found this marriage for John Douglas & Eleanor Kerr on December 21st 1810 in Kirknewton, Northumberland.

Mike

Title: Re: John Douglas(SS)
Post by: cathie377 on Sunday 24 July 11 15:10 BST (UK)

Hi, thank you for the reply. 

Title: Re: John Douglas(SS)
Post by: Michael Dixon on Sunday 24 July 11 19:55 BST (UK)

Cathie,


 I don't know if the enumerator who took the details from the Douglas family for the 1841 census in Cramlington ( page ref 824/1 24-42 ) was inefficient or was fed incorrect info by the family.

If son Selby was born in Tweedmouth ( enumerators could use " parish of birth" or "place of birth" to complete the " Where Born" column) as some later censuses indicate- although Ancroft and Chevington also get recorded- then the answer to the question " whether born in this county- or not" should  be "N" for no.

Right up until 1844 the whole parish of Tweedmouth, and that of Ancroft and others were County Durham, not part of Northumberland. Collectively referred to as North Durham.

Also enumerators were instructed to record the ages of those 15 yrs old and above, as their age rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5 years. So if Selby was 18 yrs old, he should have been recorded as "15" ( and Elenor as 45, David 15)

On the 1841 census, James at 20 years is the youngest child in the household.

 Was in fact James the youngest child or had John/Elenor had earlier children ?


 I notice that some Ancestry.com transcriptions of the family on 1841 are showing info ( i.e. birth places) which are not gleaned from the actual census.


 Michael
 

Title: Re: John Douglas(SS)
Post by: cathie377 on Sunday 24 July 11 20:55 BST (UK)

Hi,  Thank you for the reply.  I completely understand about the lay out of the land and rounding off the ages.  Nothing new on that.  Cathie

Title: Re: John Douglas(SS)
Post by: anthony pearson on Friday 29 July 11 18:36 BST (UK)

hi all

their is a douglas family living in seaton sluice northumberland
a george robert stimpson born in 1909 in tynemouth married a hannah douglas in 1940
one of her daugters ann stimpson married a james strong in northumberland

have not done the douglas side yet