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Looking for any info on a Melvin Kelly who married first Margret Gilmer (Gilmour ) then a Margaret Jane Perry in 1869?
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Hi
Melvin Kelly married Margaret Anne Gilmore in Kilmegan Church of Ireland, Downpatrick on 31 Oct 1866
Melvill Kelly married Margaret Jane Perry in Clough Presbyterian Church, Downpatrick on 15 Apr 1869
Regards
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Is this him in 1901:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Upper_Iveagh__Lower_Half_/Ballywillwill_Street/1226072/
Griffiths Valuation has a Melvin Kelly renting a house, offices and 3 acres of land in 1863, in Benraw townland (modern address would be near Whitehill Rd).
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
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Hi,
The Familysearch site gives one daughter from the first marriage and five children from the second.
Regards
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Thanks all, Melvin did indeed stay at that address, he also had 13 children by Ms Perry, 10 of whom survived I have the names of 10 of them and I know that his father was named John but have hit a brick wall as to who his mother was!
I only joined the site today and this was my first post so :) thanks again
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Melvin’s birth is before the start of statutory birth registration in Ireland (1864), so you won’t get a birth certificate for him. You might get his mother’s name from his baptism if the records have survived. From his religion in the 1901 census, he would likely have attended the local Church of Ireland parish church.
Details of parish records are on the PRONI website:
www.proni.gov.uk/index/research_and_records_held/catalogues_guides_indexes_and_leaflets/online_guides_and_indexes.htm
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I have got a copy of his baptismal record, Melvin ( Melvill ) was born in 1841, address Benraw, his mothers name Margaret, sadly no surname :(
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Still plodding along with this family but have come to a brick wall with one of Melvins sons, his name was Richard b 1894. I cant find anything about his life after 1901, ( I have also checked on Scotlands People as several of Melvins family came over here ). Richard is still living in 1919 as his name is listed along side his siblings on a memorial newspaper cutting for Melvins death, and he signed the covenant c/o Mrs Mcendoo (his sister) Downpatrick,he is not with this family on the 1911 census.Any help greatly appreciated. Jasiain.
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I am researching the kelly family tree & came across your post. I have a Richard Kelly in my tree & he had 3 brothers in Scotland. is this the same Richard Kelly you are related too?
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Goldie I have very little information on Richard, my father thinks that he was in Scotland for a time then returned to farm at Ballywillwill,his brothers Melvin,Joseph and John Henry stayed on in Scotland working as coal miners,their sister Susan stayed in a house across from the orange hall in Ballywillwill. Other siblings include Robert,Lizzie,George and Isabella Ann.Does any of this fit in with your research?
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Hi we are researching the same tree richard did come back home and settled in the village of annsborough where he lived until he past away . Are u a granddaughter of john henry or joseph i am the granddaughter of george
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I am Joes great granddaughter,your George was married to Sarah Truesdale,I have a picture of their son Victor.
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Hi I am a great granddaughter of Richard (Dick) Kelly, also trying to investigate the family tree, Richard Kelly married a Lady called Mary O’Hare, Richard was in the horse Calvary during the war he worked in Ballykinlar camp
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Hi kbrown, make another two posts and you can pm me.
I know about Mary ohare, and have read the excerpts online about richard in ww1.
Met Sylvia a few years back as well.
Great to hear from you.
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Welcome to RootsChat, Kbrown :)
Is this Richard's wedding to Mary O'Hare in 1921?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09215/5333454.pdf
Here's Melvin Kelly, Richard's father in the 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Castlewellan/Ballywillwill/235355/
.....and his death in 1919.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05153/4421102.pdf
KG
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I am hoping that Kbrown can enlighten me as I still have not found Richard in 1911 ;D
He's cost me a fortune on SP and a considerable amount of search time. :D :D
Even tried under his middle name Thomas, no luck.
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I know Richard was in Kilsyth in 1912 as he signed the covenant there, as c/o Mrs mcendoo, downpatrick.
Which one of Richards children do you descend from?
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.....richard did come back home and settled in the village of annsborough where he lived until he past away
From GRONI death records
Richard Kelly 2nd December 1969 75 Male Downpatrick
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
His death notice in Belfast Telegraph - Tuesday 02 December 1969
Husband of Mary from Ballybannon, Annsborough.
Buried in Killmegan Parish Churchyard.
KG
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Hi everyone I’m a granddaughter of Ernies (Ernest) who married to Annie Brown, has been great finding out some information about Richard does anyone have any family pictures? I managed to find a picture and some information on his time in the northern horse cavalry I am also in close contact with John Henry’s descendants
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John Henry that married Susan Shillady?
I've cleaned that grave a few times.
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Should also have mentioned the man in my avatar is Richards nephew.
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I wonder if the couple in the following marriage, which took place 8 months after Melvin Kelly married Margaret Jane Perry, were Melvin's sister and Margaret Jane's brother? (note the witness)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11436/8200730.pdf
In the above record, the bride's address of Ballywillwill is right on the money and the groom's address of Claragh (Loughinisland) is a neighbouring townland to Margaret Jane Perry's marriage address of Drumanaquoile (Kilmegan).
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I wonder if the couple in the following marriage, which took place 8 months after Melvin Kelly married Margaret Jane Perry, were Melvin's sister and Margaret Jane's brother?
I can see transcripts of baptisms that took place in Leitrim Presbyterian Church for 4 children with parents called John Kelly and Margaret, all with an address of Benraw, Melvill (1841), Mary Jane (1847), William John (1848/49) and Melvill (1850) - but no sign of an Ellen/Eleanor... ah well. :(
The baptismal record for Mary Jane (1847) also gives the mother's surname - Margaret McCrackin.
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Gaffy, that was Melvin sister and yes she married Margaret Jane's brother.
The problem I had for years was that there were two Melvin kellys born in benraw, one 1841 the other 1847, both births then corresponded with the 1901 &1911 census. Parents for both were Margaret and John.
It wasn't until we discovered that one ended up in the U.S., that one was married to Margaret McCracken.
It's been no easy feat with this family and until the records came online it was all ifs and buts.
Though several years ago I accidentally came across a cracker of a will which linked Melvin with his brothers, from memory I think it was William Perry that registered his sister Margaret Jane's death.
Married a month shy of her 16th birthday and had went on to have 14 children, she died aged 42 in 1896
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I should have been more specific, the two baptisms I have were from roots Ireland and Melvin in 1901 gave his age as 54, but in 1911 he was70.
Both ages fitting in with the two baptisms but which one was he. :D
Anyhow on his death certificate it States he was 78, I know that may be right or wrong.
At one point I had considered that there was only one Melvin and the baptisms had been mistranscribed as it is easy to mix up a 1 and a 7.
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Hi, kBrown, what information do you want about the family.
I don't want to post information that you may already have, but if there are areas of the family tree that you want more details on, please ask. ;)
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Hi I am a great granddaughter of Richard Kelly. I have never known that he spent time in Scotland. I had assumed I haven't been able to find hum on the 1911 census because he had enrolled in the army by that time. Although I'm unsure if the dates add up.
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I am the granddaughter of Richards son Mervyn who Married my grandmother Jean McCavery of Dundrum in February 1956. They went on to have 6 children. Mervyn Leslie ( my dad), Bessie,Roy,Mandy,Doreen and Irene and settled in a small village called Greyabbey which lies on the Ards peninsula. My Grandfather passed away in 1986 my grandmother in 1994.
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Hey folks,
Would anyone have the history of the Kellys pre 1800 either in the Ballywillwill or greater Castlewellan area? I'm trying to connect a Henry Kelly in Derryboy, died aged 82 in 1869 (https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=ea0ad8543e-851809). Family oral history places a connection back to Castlewellan area. Have a gravestone in Kilcairn cemetary that Henry erected for his grandson John - see https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2023/112/252669118_db78e114-a6fe-4c61-b15e-0746bb2c7574.jpeg
Thanks,
Barry