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Hi,
Might anyone have information in regards to James Freer, husband of Christina Freer (nee, Henderson) where he was/may have been a Scottish Freemason of Western Australia, either West Midland or Midland Junction??
Period, pre 1945.
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Is this your James?
Death
James Freer
Western Australia
Registration Year 1940
Registration Place - Swan, Western Australia
Registration Number - 92
And his son?
James Freer
Death Western Australia
Age 72
Father's name - James
Mother's name - Christina
Registration Year - 1979
Place - Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number - 3886/79/c
Estimated Birth Year - abt 1907
In 1906 he and Christina are living at Byers Road, Midland Junction and he is a labourer. His name is given as James McKenzie Freer
1916 Christina Regina and James McKenzie Freer are at Margaret Road Midland Junction and James is a foundry dresser.
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Hi flogged,
From Karrakatta Cemetery:
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00000505
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00005825
Cheers Janet.
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1925 Electoral Roll
James McKenzie Freer and Christina Regina Freer
43 Ferguson Street Midland Junction.
James is a foundry dresser.
State -Western Australia
District = Swan
Subdistrict - Guildford
1931 living at same address and James jnr is with them. He ia a labourer and James McKenzie is an iron dresser
1936 James McKenzie, Christina Regina plus Donald Freer a labourer and Bertha May home duties are all at 43 Ferguson Street. James M an iron dresser
James freer jnr and Mabel Blanche Freer are living at 7 sayer Street Midland Junction
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1937
James McKenzie (iron dresser), Christina Regina with Donald (labourer) and Bertha May Freer are still at 43 Ferguson Street.
James jnr and Mabel Blanche are living at 27 Amherst Street West Midland He is a carter
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Also 1910 North street Midland Junction. James a labourer and only using the name James.
Maybe this site could help you with any possible connection to Scottish Freemasonry.
http://www.dglwa.com.au/
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Hi,
Yes yes and yes to all, thank you,
I was going through "TROVE" several months ago and saw an article on "James Freer" I can't quote it word for word as I can't find it now,
but something to the effect of,
"James Freer, founder of the Scottish Freemasons West Midlands or Midland Junction" with his title in the Freemasons something like GMSFP (but not those letters, these letters are the first letters to each word within the title such as Grand Master.
I've been through TROVE the past 3 days but now cannot find that article.
I have also looked at the Freemason sites, they have the "Contact us" link, yet they don't reply.
flogged.
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Not what you asked for but I did find in trove a picture of D.Freer of Midland as soldier in ww2. Hope it is of interest.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37935144
regards,
Ros
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And there is this
Midland Junction
Goods in Dispute. — In a case in -which Grace McEenzie -was charged -with having unlawfully detained a sewing machine, an attache case, and an- electric iron, valued at £11/2/6, to the possession of -which James Bernard Bergin -was entitled, an order -was made for the return of the goods, or the payment of their value, -with costs of £2/12/6.
A similar order .-was made in a case in which Alfred Frederick Lawrence was charged with having unlawfully detained a motor car, valued to £355. the property of James Freer. The defendant was ordered to pay costs of £2.
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Do you have all the family notices on Trove?
I tried putting a link but it didn't work. I found them by using Christina Freer.
James obit doesn't mention Scottish Freemasonry.
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Not what you asked for but I did find in trove a picture of D.Freer of Midland as soldier in ww2. Hope it is of interest.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37935144
regards,
Ros
Thanks, yes it is highly possible that is Donald Freer, brother to my grandmother Rita Irene Freer, two of the children of James Freer (1)
there was also Hector and James (2) and Ethel, there is only one photo I have, that is of my grandmother Rita Irene at about 85 yrs, prior to that nothing at all.
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So James was in Broken Hill at some stage. He is down at the bottom of the article.
I wonder if hewent back 2800km for the reunion? Wed 5 July 1933 Barrier Miner
BACK TO BROKEN HILL
Over 2000 Invitations Sent Out
NOT PEAK YET
Although the peak period for the issuing of invitations is not considered to have been reached yet Mr. J. N. Jonas, organiser of the ''Back to Broken Hill Jubilee"
celebrations, has already despatched over 2000 invitations to tormer residents of Broken Hill in almost every part of thc Commonwealth. Further activities of the committee will be gone into at a meeting in the Town Hall to-night.
In addition to the extensive list of invitations being sent out each day to persons who local residents desire to return for the celebrations, Mr. Jonas has issued a number of special Invitations. The ordinary invitations are sent out when persons send in their names and addresses of former residents to the organiser. Despite the large number already despatched Mr. Jonas considers he has not yet touched the peak. The invita- tions have been widely distributed practically all over Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand, with the idea of getting the function as widely circulated as possible. Further invi- tations are to follow.
SPECIAL INVITATIONS
A special invitation has been forwarded by Mr. Jonas to Mr. E. S. Spooner, the Minister for Local Government, and the Under-secretary. Others to rcceive special invitations are the president and members of the Fire Brigades Board and exe- cutive officers, and the president and members of the executive committee and secretary of tho Local Govern- ment Association. Policewoman Nellie Poole, of Port Adelaide, who is a daughter of one of tho original seven holders of the Proprietary syndicate, has also been invited, while the sole remaining member of that syndicate, Major Phillip Charley, .of Grossvale, via Richmond, is to be specially in-
vited.
Thc committee in charge of thc celebrations will meet to-night.
MORE INVITATIONS
The following is n list of additional invitations sent out by tho organiser :
Messrs. Dave Mackay, cycle and furniture dealer, Griffith; H. Matthio sen, Griffith; S. A. Macdonald, Kadina; C. B. Newling, Technical College, Armidale, N.S.W.; J. Nield, 107 Sus-
sex-street, Sydney; J. T. Oehme, Riverton, S.A.; W. Oehme, Riverton, S.A.; P. C. Ogilvie, Box 755F, G.P.O.. Adelaide; YV. G. Phillips, View Point, Cloncurry, Queensland; L. Page, c/o Bank of "Australasia, Adelaide; L. Ross, 131 Scott-strect, Newcastle; L. Rees, 75 Grange-road, Colonel Light Gardens, Adelaide; T. Rcvnolds, Brinkworth, S.A.; T. Slattery, 88 Ward-street, North Adelaide; W. Slattery, Laura, S.A.; W. I. Scott, secretary W.E.A., Edward-street, Brisbane, Queensland; A, Smith, c/o Mr.'Deering,'Mannum, S.A.; H. Wood, Courthouse, Wentworth; F. T. Will- mott, Peterborough; W. E. Williams, motor works, Sussex-street, Glenelg; C. W. Wales, school teacher, Cobbity, N.S.W.; W. N. Abbott, c/o Mr. H. V. King, Box 07, Port Lincoln, S.A. ; J. R. Bowering, Adelaide: D.'Barrett, Mayfield. Newcastle; Allan Bradshaw, c/o Bank, of N.S.W., Mt. Gambier, S.A.; L. Beauchamp. 77 Dugau-street, Kalgoorlie, W.A.; E. R. Blanks, 25 Grange-road, Welland, Adelaide; W. E. Chinner, managing director, Wil- kinson and Co., Ltd., Adelaide; W. H. Crase, 21 Herbert-street, Plymp- ton Park, Adelaide; AV. Coombe, Royal Hotel, Moonta, S.A.; S. Drew, 12 Bradley's Head-road, Mosman ; B. J. Doe, Bridge-street, Epping, N.S.W.; Les Evans, 36 Bay-road, Glenelg; F. Edwards, 7 Bay-road, Keswick, S.A.; R. W. Evans, Electoral - Office, Orange, N.S.W.;
**James Freer, Ferguson-street, Midland Junction, W.A.; F. A. Freer, Rhodes-street, Kalgoorlie, W.A.; W. E. Collan, Goulburn High School, N.S.AV.; Wally Griffiths, . 0
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So James was in Broken Hill at some stage. He is down at the bottom of the article.
I wonder if hewent back 2800km for the reunion? Wed 5 July 1933 Barrier Miner
BACK TO BROKEN HILL
Over 2000 Invitations Sent Out
NOT PEAK YET
Although the peak period for the issuing of invitations is not considered to have been reached yet Mr. J. N. Jonas, organiser of the ''Back to Broken Hill Jubilee"
celebrations, has already despatched over 2000 invitations to tormer residents of Broken Hill in almost every part of thc Commonwealth. Further activities of the committee will be gone into at a meeting in the Town Hall to-night.
In addition to the extensive list of invitations being sent out each day to persons who local residents desire to return for the celebrations, Mr. Jonas has issued a number of special Invitations. The ordinary invitations are sent out when persons send in their names and addresses of former residents to the organiser. Despite the large number already despatched Mr. Jonas considers he has not yet touched the peak. The invita- tions have been widely distributed practically all over Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand, with the idea of getting the function as widely circulated as possible. Further invi- tations are to follow.
SPECIAL INVITATIONS
A special invitation has been forwarded by Mr. Jonas to Mr. E. S. Spooner, the Minister for Local Government, and the Under-secretary. Others to rcceive special invitations are the president and members of the Fire Brigades Board and exe- cutive officers, and the president and members of the executive committee and secretary of tho Local Govern- ment Association. Policewoman Nellie Poole, of Port Adelaide, who is a daughter of one of tho original seven holders of the Proprietary syndicate, has also been invited, while the sole remaining member of that syndicate, Major Phillip Charley, .of Grossvale, via Richmond, is to be specially in-
vited.
Thc committee in charge of thc celebrations will meet to-night.
MORE INVITATIONS
The following is n list of additional invitations sent out by tho organiser :
Messrs. Dave Mackay, cycle and furniture dealer, Griffith; H. Matthio sen, Griffith; S. A. Macdonald, Kadina; C. B. Newling, Technical College, Armidale, N.S.W.; J. Nield, 107 Sus-
sex-street, Sydney; J. T. Oehme, Riverton, S.A.; W. Oehme, Riverton, S.A.; P. C. Ogilvie, Box 755F, G.P.O.. Adelaide; YV. G. Phillips, View Point, Cloncurry, Queensland; L. Page, c/o Bank of "Australasia, Adelaide; L. Ross, 131 Scott-strect, Newcastle; L. Rees, 75 Grange-road, Colonel Light Gardens, Adelaide; T. Rcvnolds, Brinkworth, S.A.; T. Slattery, 88 Ward-street, North Adelaide; W. Slattery, Laura, S.A.; W. I. Scott, secretary W.E.A., Edward-street, Brisbane, Queensland; A, Smith, c/o Mr.'Deering,'Mannum, S.A.; H. Wood, Courthouse, Wentworth; F. T. Will- mott, Peterborough; W. E. Williams, motor works, Sussex-street, Glenelg; C. W. Wales, school teacher, Cobbity, N.S.W.; W. N. Abbott, c/o Mr. H. V. King, Box 07, Port Lincoln, S.A. ; J. R. Bowering, Adelaide: D.'Barrett, Mayfield. Newcastle; Allan Bradshaw, c/o Bank, of N.S.W., Mt. Gambier, S.A.; L. Beauchamp. 77 Dugau-street, Kalgoorlie, W.A.; E. R. Blanks, 25 Grange-road, Welland, Adelaide; W. E. Chinner, managing director, Wil- kinson and Co., Ltd., Adelaide; W. H. Crase, 21 Herbert-street, Plymp- ton Park, Adelaide; AV. Coombe, Royal Hotel, Moonta, S.A.; S. Drew, 12 Bradley's Head-road, Mosman ; B. J. Doe, Bridge-street, Epping, N.S.W.; Les Evans, 36 Bay-road, Glenelg; F. Edwards, 7 Bay-road, Keswick, S.A.; R. W. Evans, Electoral - Office, Orange, N.S.W.;
**James Freer, Ferguson-street, Midland Junction, W.A.; F. A. Freer, Rhodes-street, Kalgoorlie, W.A.; W. E. Collan, Goulburn High School, N.S.AV.; Wally Griffiths, . 0
Great, thank you, that is somewhat of a confirmation, F.A.Freer was brother of James, Frederick Adam., all I need to find now is what title James held, but the Grand Lodge don't seem to like answering emails, my main goal is to find a photo/painting of him, I am sure the lodge would have one if he where high ranking.
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maybe an email to the web addy below asking what local council covers Midland. Then an email to them explaining what you are wanting to know?
Western Australia Local Council Guide
A WA Government directory of ALL WA Local Councils Perth WA 6000
www.walga.asn.au.
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maybe an email to the web addy below asking what local council covers Midland. Then an email to them explaining what you are wanting to know?
Western Australia Local Council Guide
A WA Government directory of ALL WA Local Councils Perth WA 6000
www.walga.asn.au.
Thanks, have done that 3 times since I first saw the article in Trove about December.
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Good grief they are slack aren't they?
I seem to be suggesting everything you have already tried. How about the WA genealogical society. They also have forums.
http://wags.org.au/o/
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Hi - I live around the Midland/Swan area & go past Ferguson St on my way 2 work each morn - what actually did u want to know perhaps I coud help.
Troods
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Good grief they are slack aren't they?
I seem to be suggesting everything you have already tried. How about the WA genealogical society. They also have forums.
http://wags.org.au/o/
Thanks, we have found a lot of the genealogy side of things, many thanks to many in here, but when it comes to a secret society like the Freemasons it seems to get harder, they are somewhat reluctant to give information unless one is a member, even though they have a web site and the "Contact Us" link, they walk amoung us and we don't know, that's not to be rude to them, but it does make it hard working things out.
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Hi - I live around the Midland/Swan area & go past Ferguson St on my way 2 work each morn - what actually did u want to know perhaps I coud help.
Troods
Hi Troods, the main thing we are attempting to find out is the Freemason history of James Freer, it was suggested in a paper article I found in Trove the he founded the Midland Lodge or the Midland Junction Lodge, I have sent a couple of emails to the Grand Lodge over the last 6/7 months but they don't reply, I do get the auto responder to say they did get the email, but that's it.
flogged.
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I googled Freemasons Lodge Midland & found it on Google maps - I know exactly where that building is in Midland however like you said they seem to be a very private society etc.
Troods
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I googled Freemasons Lodge Midland & found it on Google maps - I know exactly where that building is in Midland however like you said they seem to be a very private society etc.
Troods
I might have to find a local Scottish Freemason lodge and ask them directly.
ta much.
flogged.
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Hi all- I am just starting to do the freer family history and am the son of Donald Freer who is the son of James and Christina , my name being donald John Freer- Most of your postings seem to be around july 2011 so I may be a little late to catch anyone-hopefully not-most of the information posted is correct and at this time I can add little else other than information on Donald and His Brother James.
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Well hello, finally I make contact with Freer family cousin, are you on FB?
Shane; Grandson to Rita Irene, daughter of James and Christina.
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Hi guys, not sure if you are still on here but my grandfather was James Freer married to Mable Hunter. his father was James Mckenzie Freer from Glasgow the same person you are enquiring about, I would love to find out more about my relations,
cheers Russ...
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Sorry all, lots of trouble past few years with internet and computers, I fail to keep things up to date.
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Hi guys, not sure if you are still on here but my grandfather was James Freer married to Mable Hunter. his father was James Mckenzie Freer from Glasgow the same person you are enquiring about, I would love to find out more about my relations,
cheers Russ...
Same here, hello cousin Rusty.
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did you find any more infor about James and the Freemasons?
I remember nanna always used to go on about the Freemasons, shame she passed away in 99, she knew the ins and out of everything haha
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did you find any more infor about James and the Freemasons?
I remember nanna always used to go on about the Freemasons, shame she passed away in 99, she knew the ins and out of everything haha
Just sent you my details in personal message.
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did you find any more infor about James and the Freemasons?
I remember nanna always used to go on about the Freemasons, shame she passed away in 99, she knew the ins and out of everything haha
Are you getting the personal messages?
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Hello, are you still there?