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Title: GENi.com
Post by: daveb on Wednesday 20 July 11 21:19 BST (UK)
Hi,

 I've just come across this site when searching a name on google. As i have never seen this site before I was rather surprised at the amount of info on it relating to my search. Is it one of those sites where the info is uploaded without extensive research i.e. picked from others' endeavours?
 Some of the info had taken me ages to research.

daveb
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: Daisy Loo on Wednesday 20 July 11 23:41 BST (UK)
Good grief, I have just looked myself, and not only does it list the names of my parents, but also of my children!

What is this site??
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: kaysii on Friday 22 July 11 14:06 BST (UK)
If you have shared your family tree with others, they might have uploaded it onto Geni. It is an American/Californian site for which you can subscribe or join as a free member, but you are unable .

I would contact the company and state that you have found your personal details on the website and say you have not given permission for your personal details to be so used. I am not sure what "personal data" is protected in Californian law.

As to the validity of the research, it can vary. Some have linked their trees and in some cases the information is well researched in others it is not. I used it for a while, but I made a mistake and it got linked with another person's tree and although I had information kept private someone had managed to get details and loaded the tree onto another family tree site. I contacted them there and they removed the information or made it private. They weren't aware of it as they had copied a very large family tree. I have removed all living persons names on my family tree to avoid any future problems. Kaysii
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: daveb on Friday 22 July 11 14:38 BST (UK)
 I think it's one of those sites that people subscribe to without any research whatsover,save for poaching others families. I have found details of my antecedents on there that are definitely not related to others of the same name who belong to a titled family. They could have been in the dim & distant past i.e. before it became possible through written records but settled in totally different areas of the country (the Norman invasion etc.)
 It's extremely annoying but there is little that can be done, it seems. I usually only try to share my tree with people that I think are genuinly interested but this shows it is easy to make a mistake.

 daveb

Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: supermoussi on Friday 29 July 11 14:44 BST (UK)
I found living people's info on there too, including very young childrens, who obviously didn't give their permission for their info to be spread worldwide to every Tom, Dick and Pedo.

America's privacy laws are much worse than the UK's, so the best policy is not to give any info about living people to anyone, as you never know when one day it will wing its way onto the internet.
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: Cell on Friday 17 February 12 07:54 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I too would like to know about this site.

The reason being my 6 yr old son is doing family history at school and the teacher has come up with a suggestion that they can do their family trees on this, and is this ok with us  parents. They want the children to put their grandparents on , aunts uncles that sort of thing.
 I am very uncomfortable about it  for the reason being it sounds as if your tree is not private - they seem to have a policy of not making living people public, but from  some of the above messages that doesn't seem to be the case.

I'm more than a bit apprehensive ( to put it very lightly) about my young  child putting his details and making a  tree on there

To the people who use this site , please can you explain to us what privacy there is - can you make your whole tree private? Is the aim of the site to make a world tree? - ie so you can't keep your tree private ( except for living people)

Kind regards
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: roopat on Friday 17 February 12 09:24 GMT (UK)
Cell - say NO and put it in writing to the school governors, local authority, press, whoever. It's fine if they want the children to make a 'paper' or word-processed version of their tree - but why would they want them to put it on the internet???

When I was teaching they went over to cash-less payment for dinners etc.  so all kids and staff had to register their thumbprint on the school data system - only one student in my class of 30 refused as she didn't want her thumbrint recorded anywhere however 'secure' the system was. Oh - I did too!

Call me old-fashioned...... (please!  ;D) but there's little enough protection of our personal info as it is.

Pat
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: andycand on Friday 17 February 12 09:39 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would be saying no and getting onto the school urgently and suggest strongly that they rethink the idea of posting to the internet. I was advised many years ago, never post anything on the internet you wouldn't want to see on the frontpage of your local paper no matter how private you believe it to be.
Also, I suspect that the school would be in breach of the Data Protection legislation

Andy
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: davidft on Friday 17 February 12 14:27 GMT (UK)

Also, I suspect that the school would be in breach of the Data Protection legislation

Andy

Yes that is the first thing that occurred to me too.

I remember reading a while ago about a school pupil who "had to do" a family tree populating it with entirely fictitious people - I think that's the way to go, come to think of it there are more than a few trees like that on internet wedsites hosting family trees ::)
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: supermoussi on Friday 17 February 12 17:53 GMT (UK)
Even if an internet company's policy is to protect your personal info you can never trust them because:-

1) IT/Admin staff make software bugs and data errors
2) No IT system is anywhere near 100% safe from internal data thieves or external hackers

If you are worried that fraudsters or paedophiles might get hold of your, or your childrens', details DO NOT POST ANY INFO ABOUT YOURSELVES ON ANY WEBSITE.
Title: Re: GENi.com
Post by: Cell on Sunday 19 February 12 12:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you all.

I know what you're saying ( from someone who has never put their own details on the web for thousands of damn good reasons) - I'm up in arms about it.

I've sorted the problem out (how to put a stop to it),Child protection laws in this country .


Thank  you all
Kind regards :)