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Title: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Tracy Dineley on Sunday 17 July 11 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi ! Any help greatfully recieved.
My Husband's family are the Dineley's of Severn Street and further back ParkGate areas of Belfast.
He is the grandson of Albert Ernest Dineley and Elizabeth Maud nee Beattie.
Any body know of them/ remember them?
We believe that the family traces back to a Josiah Dineley who married a Mary Williams and have possible links with Port Glasgow as their son, Andrew is married in Belfast but recorded as living in Port Glasgow on his marriage in 1873 to a Sarah Crouch nee Shaw.

Thanks in anticipation

Tracy
 
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 17 July 11 13:10 BST (UK)
More details from your earlier posts with information supplied by others-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,421339.msg3736885.html

Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 17 July 11 13:21 BST (UK)
Tracy,
       The father of Andrew Dineley who married Sarah Crouch is recorded as ISIAH.

Regards
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Tracy Dineley on Sunday 17 July 11 13:47 BST (UK)
@kingskerswell,
                              Am updating after a recent visit to Belfast Records office.  On my husbands tree Andrew Thompson Dineley(snr) married twice:

1. to a Sarah Crouch nee Shaw. On the 1873 certificate for this marriage, grooms father is Isaiah Dineley, a clerk.
2. to a Margaret Jane McClelland nee Moore. On the 1899 marriage certificate, the grrom's father is Josiah Dineley, a book keeper.

This is as far back as we can go at the moment.  Any hlp suggestions greatfully appreciated.
Many thanks

Tracy
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: WilliamBerry on Thursday 01 June 17 13:38 BST (UK)

Hello

Here are a few pieces on your Dineleys.  The first Ernest was born in July 1908 and died aged three days.  As was the custom the name was reused when the second Ernest was born in February 1916.
To help in your future searches try these sites:
 Join the Records Office: https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/search/

Births, Marriages and Deaths are available, online, for 100, 75 and 50 years respectively.
It is free to do a basic search but you must buy credits to do so. An Enhanced Search cost one credit (50p) and a Full Search is five credits (£2.50).

Before you spend any money try: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

This is free but is not as comprehensive and only does N Ireland up to 1921. It has the same search criteria as above.

Another useful site is for the 1901 and 1911 Census. You can access this at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Hope this helps

All the best
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: WilliamBerry on Thursday 01 June 17 15:17 BST (UK)
Here is the Marriage Certificate for Andrew & Amelia
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 06 June 17 19:57 BST (UK)
You have done well with such help here and Neil elsewhere. I have tried to put together what you may already know but as it is not straightforward here goes as a first draft in two parts
1. JOSIAH DINELEY {the 1st}b 1821/23 d 1867  bur  Belfast  m MARY WILLIAMS appears to be a RootsIreland marriage checkit out carefully any other Dineley in this record check Marys death why did he move to Belfast and whereabouts   
Notes Neil above viz” IGI reference (Abt 1816) to the Josiah Dineley/Mary Williams marriage in 1840 in Clogher, Ulster Province; but since this is not referenced I wouldn't rely on it.” Clogher apparently extends over parts of Tyrone and Monaghan
residences  this has to be him
in 1852 from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/1852streetsmtoz.htm
McMaster's Row off  Durham Street
8. Joseph Dinley, clerk  McMasters Row off  Durham Street.  5 little streets off Durham St drawn but not named see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jeanmccarthy36/1861_map_of_belfast.htm
in 1860 Josiah Dineley St. George's Ward Townparks [5] Raglan Street Shankill house and yard valued at £ 3 fifteen shillings  pa  see see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
but is this him or son1862  Josiah Dineley   Derryaghy Derryaghy Antrim  map ref 46AB Ab has house and small garden valued at £ 3 ten shillings  pa [ the top 5% locallly]  area off A1 nr junction just nw corner of Aberdelghy Golf Course has a David Duncan living nearby
listed on valuation continuation books see  https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/proni
Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/8/2A (1862 - 1865) hes listed
Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/8/2B (1866 - 1879) hes listed
Current PRONI Reference: VAL/12/B/8/2C (1879 - 1889) not found
so if he died this could have been one of his houses he left the other to his son or?
children
1.1   . JOSIAH DINELEY  {THE 2ND}B 1841 M  1865 BELFAST ELLEN JANE DUNCAN B 1845 DAU OF William Duncan who may be this William Duncan, of Waring & Duncan, Mountain Mill. 2 THOMAS STREET run between Lancaster Street to Great George's Street see http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/tcomplete1861.htm
occupations:- clerk, book keeper on marriage certificates
residences
children
1.1.1. ELIZA DINELEY     b. 15 Oct 1865, BELFAST,ANTRIM
1.1.2. HERBERT DINELEY    b.26 Jan 1867, BELFAST,ANTRIM  see UHF
1.1.3  JOSIAH  DINELEY   [the 3rd }  b.20 Apr 1868, Ireland [did he marry} uhf entry says antrim/down } I decided 1.2.55. was the more likely marriage
1.1.4. AGNES  DINELEY     b.05 Nov 1869, Armagh, Ireland see UHF
1.1.5. WILLIAM DINELEY    b.16 Jul 1871, Ireland see UHF
1.1.6. ALFRED   DINELEY    b.24 APR 1873, Port Glasgow m 27 Apr 1898
.......Belfast Selina Spence{IG}
....children
....1.1,6.1. ALFRED DINELEY b14 July 1901
....1.1,6.1 UNKNOWN DINELEY b 09 June 1902

....1.1,6.1 ALFRED DINELEY b 15 Apr 1906
....1.1,6.1 HERBERT DINELEY on 24 February 1909
....1.1,6.1 GLYDAS DINELEY on 08 September 1912
....1.1,6.1  WALTER DINELEY on 15 December 1914
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 06 June 17 19:58 BST (UK)
part 2 of draft
1.2. ANDREW THOMPSON DINELEY {the 1st}b 25 Nov 1845 Castleshane Co Monaghan
notes Castleshane is about 4 miles west of Monaghan town. Williams in Co Monaghan known to be living in Ballybay about 6 miles south of Castleshane in 1861, and Clones in west Monaghan also earlier in the parishes of Donagh and Tehallan 1826-1832. Genes Reunited has a”Martin” treeholder with entry’Andrew Dineley b1845 County Monaghan’,
another gen sourcehttps://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/DINELEY
marriages?
{m1865 antrim see entry in www.irelandancestry.com  keep until excluded
JOSIAH DINELEY 1865 father JOSIAH  Antrim      Investigate further
m1 1873 Belfast SARAH CROUCH nee SHAW 
children
1.2.1.  FREDERICK WILLIAM DYNLEY b 22 Oct 1873 m 7 Jul 1900 Belfast EMILY KENNEDY{IG}
1.2.2.  ANDREW THOMPSON DINILEY  {the 2nd } Junior  b 18 Aug 1880 Ballycowan, Down, Ireland [note Ballycowan townland is in Drumbo civil parish includes village of Purdysburn] this Andrew  I think must be Andrew Dineley b~1881 ??  Belfast Baptist occupation 1911 Painter m 1902 Trinity Church Shankill Belfast AMELIA {MINNIE} GRAY b~1883 Dublin Church of Ireland dau of Adm and Elizabeth 17 convention Victoria Down {Belfast} both parents b Dublin see census 1901.
residences
25 Armitage Street (Victoria (part of), Down)
children
.....1.2.2.1.  ELIZABETH LIZZIE  DINELEY b12 Aug 1903 Church of Ireland Belfast
.....1.2.2.2.  SARAH DINELEY b 23 Jan 1905 Church of Ireland Belfast might be living with    ......grandparents in1911
......1.2.2.3.  MARGARET DINELEY b 27 April 1907 Belfast [IG}
......1.2.2.4.  ERNEST DINELEY  b 2 Jul 1908 d 5 Jul 1908 Belfast
......1.2.2.5.  HARRIET DINELEY b 10 Aug 1909 Church of Ireland Belfast
......1.2.2.6.  JANE DINELEY B 24 Jan 1912 [IG}
1.2.3.  ERNEST DINELEY b 1883 check mother
1.2.4.  SARAH   DINELEY b 1885
1.2.5.  JOSEPH DINELEY b 1887 m Belfast  31 Jan 1912 AGNES FERGUSON  [IG} Dundonald Cemetery grave B4 508 has Joseph/Josiah d 15 Dec 1959 and Agnes b 1891 d 10 Jun 1966
......children 
......1.2.5.1.  MARIA DINELEY b 10 April 1912 Belfast
......1.2.5.2.  JOSIAH DINELEY b 25 April 1915 Belfast
......1.2.5.3.  ANDREW DINELEY b 29 November 1913 Belfast
m2 1899-1900 MARGARET JANE MCCLELLAND nee MOORE. On the 1899 marriage certificate, the groom's father is Josiah Dineley, a book keeper. her daughter in law lived with them in 1901-11 Emily McClelland   census Emily   30 Step Daughter Church of IrelandBelfast Cotton Weaver Widow a Logan?
children  unlikely,  so children listed on census are principally Andrews from previous marriages and others
1.3   RACHEL DINELEY b ~before 1852, dau of JOSIAH JOSEPH{the 1st} looks like she was a partner of Samuel McCready >1866 and married him in Jul - Sep 1879
children
Jane Macready b 23 Apr 1866 Christening place 390, BELFAST, ANT, IRE
Samuel Josiah Macready b 23 Jul 1867 0360,BELFAST,ANTRIM
correct this as you wish good luck you have done well
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: WilliamBerry on Tuesday 06 June 17 21:55 BST (UK)
Hello

Thanks for the info.  Josiah was living in Raglan Street, Belfast in 1860 and in 1862 he was living in Derriaghy.  I think he is buried in the Shankill Cemetery, Belfast but need to check.

All the best
Jim
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Wednesday 07 June 17 07:19 BST (UK)
hi all, heres some notes
from PRONI street directories1896
Dinley, A engineer 25 Wolff Street PRONI 1896
from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1907DE.htm
Dineley, Ernest, moulder, 6 Duke Street
Dinley, Alfred, iron turner, 142 Parkgate Avenue  engineer in 1911 census iron turner in 1901 census
Dinley, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue 1896,

from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ccomplete1908_2.htm
Central Street
Newtownards Road to Loughview Street
29. Dinley, Geo., iron turner
Dinley, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue 1896,
1910 Dinly, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue
1910 Dinnlay, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue


from http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1918DE.htm
Dineley, Andw., painter, 59 Dundela Street
1918  Dinley, Alfred, iron turner, 33 Stonyford Street
1918 Dinley, Andw., engineer, 144 Parkgate Avenue
1818Dineley, Josiah, brass finisher, 2 Hanwood Street

1896 Dinly, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue
1910 Dinly, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue
1910 Dinnlay, Andw., engineer, 146 Parkgate Avenue
1918 Dinley, Andw., engineer, 144 Parkgate Avenue
1924 Dinley, Andw., engineer, 144 Parkgate Avenue Part of Woodboine Cottage

belowf rom https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/burialSearch.aspx
burials Dundonald Cemetery B3 563 with death date
Andrew Thompson Dineley b~ 1845   85 Years   19 March 1930 5 Brandon Parade
Margaret Ann   Dineley    b~ 1852   70 Years   3 April 1922     144 Parkgate Ave
Sarah   Dineley       b~1884   32 Years   16 December 1916144 Parkgate Ave
Josiah   Dineley        b~1915   3 2/12 Years   29 June 1918   18 Memel Street
Danl Thompson Mcallen Dineley b~1917    1 3/12 Years   20 June 1918   18 Memel Street

burials Dundonald Cemetery E1 453, Dundonald Cemetery
Andrew Thompson Dineley   b~1880  59 Years    20 March 1939      
Albert Ernest   Dineley      b ~1883  74 Years    11 September 1957      
Harriet   Greer         b~1883 91      30 March 1984   236 Derby Road Chesterfield
Elizabeth Mckay         b~1868 82 Years       14 May 1950      

Occupants of grave B4 508, Dundonald Cemetery
Josiah   Dineley   b~1886 73 Years   15 December 1959   
Agnes   Dineley   b~1891 75 Yrs   10 June 1966      
with 3 Patterson   

unused census 1901Dinley   Andrew   19   Male   Lodger   Babptist   Co Down   House Painter   Read and write   -   Not Married lodging with Jackson family 6 in Lisnavon Street (Victoria, Down)

from https://www.emeraldancestors.com/ marriages
1873   Andrew    DINELEY   Sarah         Belfast   Antrim
1899   Andrew    DINELEY   Margaret Jane  Belfast   Antrim
1902   Andrew    DINELEY   Amelia      Belfast   Antrim

Genes Reunited has members who  have the individuals listed below in their trees
You might have to join to contact treeholders.
Andrew       Dineley   1845   County Monaghan, Ire...   No   Martin
Alfred          Dineley   1872   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth
Alfred   Dineley   1878   Belfast, Ireland ...   No   Richard   
Albert   Dineley   1882   Belfast Ireland ...   No   Richard   
Alfred   Dineley   1880   Belfast ...   No   John   
Andrew   Dineley   1880   Ballycowan, Down, Ir...   No   Richard   
Albert   Dineley   1882   Belfast Ireland ...   No   Richard       
Andrew     Dineley   1893   Belfast ...   No   Minnie   
Amelia       Dineley   1893   Belfast ...   No      
Andrew       Dineley   1899   Belfast, Ireland ...   No   Richard
Alfred        Dineley   1901   Belfast ...   No   Richard
Alfred   Dineley   1906   Belfast, Ireland ...   No   Richard   
Alfred   Dineley   1905   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth   
Alfred   Dineley   1905   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth   
Alfred   Dineley   1906   Belfast, Ireland ...   No   Richard   
Alfred   Dineley   1905   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth   
Alfred   Dineley   1905   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth   
Albert         Dineley         1910   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth
Andrew       Dineley   1915   Belfast County Antri...   No   Elizabeth
Albert Ernest  Dineley   1915   Belfast ...   No   Minnie   
Carol   Dineley   1958   Belfast County Antri...   No   Colin   
Carolyn   Dineley   1957   Belfast, Northern Ir...   No   Carolyn   

 https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ has more
and no doubt much more exists, however i m off on another query good luck and all the best
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Sunday 10 May 20 21:18 BST (UK)
My great grandparents are Andrew Dineley and Amelia (Gray) Dineley.   Their daughter, Harriet (Dineley) Hillis was married to James Hillis, born in Belfast.   The emigrated to Waterford, NY, USA.

I would LOVE to hear more about this family, and the Beatties.

Alexander Hillis, m. to Mary Jane (Beattie) Hillis c. 1888.

I can be found on Facebook.
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 11 May 20 09:41 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

My great grandparents are Andrew Dineley and Amelia (Gray) Dineley.   Their daughter, Harriet (Dineley) Hillis was married to James Hillis, born in Belfast.   


Married on 25th December 1902 in Trinity church, Belfast.
His father Andrew Dineley, an iron turner. Her father Adam Gray, a labourer.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10288/5744652.pdf

Your grandmother born in 1909, at 46 Frome street, Belfast.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01605/1644642.pdf

KG
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 11 May 20 10:14 BST (UK)
   
Their daughter, Harriet (Dineley) Hillis was married to James Hillis, born in Belfast.   

Alexander Hillis, m. to Mary Jane (Beattie) Hillis c. 1888.


James Hillis married Harriett Dineley on 13th July 1928 in Belfast.
See https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/ and follow the instructions.

Alexander Hillis married Jane Beatty on 8th July 1888 in Ballymacarrett Parish Church.
His father was James Hillis, a jobber. Her father was John Beatty, a labourer.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10771/5928582.pdf

KG

Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Monday 11 May 20 11:40 BST (UK)
Thank you so much!!!!!

Does anyone have parents of each of the ancestors in the Dineley/Gray families?   Sometimes people already have those things in their records.

Also, because of John Beattie, I'm very much interested in the Beattie connection.   It was said in our family that we descended from Admirable Beattie.   I have no idea if that is true.

I have James and Alexander Hillis' ancestors back quite far ... nothing on John Beattie.   I don't even know who he married, if anyone.

Plus, my grandmother used to say we were related to Maxwells.  I have since discovered that John Beattie lived with some Maxwells near the end of his life, but I do not know why.
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 11 May 20 15:35 BST (UK)

 ....... nothing on John Beattie.   I don't even know who he married, if anyone.

Plus, my grandmother used to say we were related to Maxwells.  I have since discovered that John Beattie lived with some Maxwells near the end of his life, but I do not know why.

John Beattie in 1901 census living with his daughter and son-in-law (Maxwell).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Thorndyke_Street/1262849/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003998004/

Their marriage in 1898
George Maxwell & Anne Beattie (Her father John).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1898/10432/5798490.pdf

He is still with the Maxwells in 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Hornby_Street/221498/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002183407/

The death of John Beattie in 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05106/4403388.pdf
Informant is his daughter Mary Jane Hillis.

KG



Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Monday 11 May 20 16:19 BST (UK)
Thank you so much!!!!!

Huge cyber-hugs!
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 11 May 20 16:50 BST (UK)
Some more information for you  ;D

Your GGGrandmother Mary Jane Beattie passed away in 1908, at 28 Hornby Street. The informant was her son-in-law, George Maxwell. (Note John Beattie is a widower in 1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05489/4537530.pdf

KG
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Tuesday 12 May 20 10:56 BST (UK)
Wow!   Thank you!   I could not find evidence of a spouse anywhere!

They named their daughter Mary Jane, too, and probably called her Jane because that's the name on her marriage license.

Do you happen to know the death record for James Hillis; father of Alexander Hillis?   He was probably born around 1840.
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:10 BST (UK)
Do you happen to know the death record for James Hillis; father of Alexander Hillis?   He was probably born around 1840.

This is likely to be the death of your GGGrandfather James Hillis in 1909 at 74 Skipton Street.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05473/4532040.pdf
Informant is his son, Alex Hillis living at 18 Hornby Street.

1901 census – James Hillis and his second family at Skipton Street. MMN McClure
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Skipton_Street/1261099/

Alexander Hillis in 1911 census living at Hornby Street.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Hornby_Street/221502/

KG



Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 May 20 10:42 BST (UK)

Mary Jane Beattie and her daughters in 1901 Irish census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Channing_Street/1216321/

Birth of Elizabeth in 1878.      MMN Vincent     #388
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02980/2092000.pdf

Birth of Maria in 1883       MMN Vincent     #45
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02716/1999653.pdf

KG


Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Wednesday 13 May 20 13:40 BST (UK)
Again, thank you SO much!!!!!!

Is there any research you might need done in the U.S.?
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 13 May 20 15:57 BST (UK)
Is there any research you might need done in the U.S.?

Thank you for your kind offer, but i have only a few ancestors who immigrated to the USA and have found them all and many of their descendants.

Let me finish by giving you some more data on your Belfast ancestors. I have the following:

The marriage of John Beattie & Jane Vincent in 1864.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11615/8275906.pdf
His father is James Beattie, a labourer. Her father is McCaller? Vincent, a weaver.

Mary Jane Beattie born 1869     MMN Vincent      #21
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03399/2246567.pdf

The death of Alexander Hillis in 1921.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05086/4396007.pdf
The informant was his widow, Jane.

Alexander & Annie Hillis/Maria Beattie – Grave in Dundonald cemetery
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialSearch.aspx?GraveSection=E4&GraveNumber=133&CemeteryName=Dundonald%20Cemetery

Enjoy your further research  :)

KG





Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: Kathy Hillis Dickinson on Wednesday 13 May 20 17:58 BST (UK)
Oh my!   You are a treasure!   Thank you!

Kathy
Title: Re: DINELEY/ BEATTIE Family Belfast
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 16 May 20 13:06 BST (UK)
Continuing the amazing work done by KIltglassan on the Beattie side.  I went to the beginning of irish records for the name, some of you may know it all and more but just in case something is new for you

There have been Beattie/Beatty/Beaty/Betty/Bettye in Ireland a long time.  In the north of Ireland records exist with how the name spelling was recorded,  the earliest sources I found are in http://www.billmacafee.com/
eg 1630 Muster rolls for estates in Co Londonderry
Beattie Beattie William  Clothworkers (Sir Robert McClelland) Coleraine
eg 1630 Muster Rolls for the Baronies of Cary, Dunluce and Toome
Beattie Beatty John Mr Adare's British Tenants on his Native Lands Toome
eg 1699 Hearth Money Rolls
Beattie   Betty   John   Antrim Upper     Donegore   Ballynoe
Beattie   Betty   Tho   Glenarm UpperLarne   Larne Town
Beattie   Beaty   James   Toome Lower     Kirkinriola   Ballymena Estate
Beattie   Beaty   Robt   Toome Lower  Kirkinriola   Ballymena Estate
Beattie   Beaty   Tho   Toome Lower     Kirkinriola   Ballymena Estate
Beattie   Betty   John   Toome Lower     Kirkinriola   Ballymena Town
in 1740  Protestants in Co Antrim
Beattie   Bettye   Joh   Cary   Billy
Beattie   Beatty   John   Toome   Ahoghill
Beattie   Beatty   John   Toome   Ahoghill
Beattie   Beatty   James   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   James   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   John   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   John   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   Margt   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   Patk   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   Wid   Toome   Kirkinriola
Beattie   Beatty   Willm   Toome   Kirkinriola
in 1740 Protestants in Co Derry
Beattie   Beaty   William   Keenaght   Dungiven   Lackagh [Laccah]
Beattie   Beatty   Ralph   Loughinsholin   Lissan   Not specified
Beattie   Beaty   John   Loughinsholin   Maghera   Not specified
Beattie   Beatty   Edw   Loughinsholin   Magherafelt   Not specified
Beattie   Beatty   Robt   Loughinsholin   Termoneeny   Not specified
Beattie   Beaty   Saml   NW Liberties of L'Derry   Templemore   Ballymagrorty [Bellymagroorty]
Beattie   Beaty   Ezekell   NW Liberties of L'Derry   Templemore   Londonderry
Beattie   Beaty   Thos   Tirkeeran   Clondermot   Corrody [Carroddy]
Beattie   Beaty   James   Tirkeeran   Clondermot   Edenreagh
theres many more sources eg
1819 Belfast street directory https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/1819_Alphanames.htm
Beaty, Robert, joiner, 12 Hudson's Entry
Beaty, Thomas, 58 Hercules Street
Beaty, James, John Street
Beaty, Edward, machine maker, 4 Union Street
and many more directories at www.lennonwylie.co.uk and at PRONI

google search for references led me to a review of a books
Rawson, Geoffrey "Earl Beatty, Admiral of the Fleet" by Geoffrey Rawson Jarrolds
which has ‘ the origin of the family name. It has been traced to "Betagh" (biadhtach) Beatagh, Beatty, the original meaning being a "public victualler." The family is said to be of Danish descent, but in the early Anglo-Irish records the Christian names are Norman. They were seated in Moynalty[Co Meath] from an early period, and branches of the family appear to have settled in Mayo, Galway and Clare.  Lord Beatty's branch of the family has been prominent in Wexford for many years... In the Enniscorthy district,...”
and later I found amazon selling a version Earl Beatty: Admiral of the Fleet: Viscount Borodale and Baron Beatty of the North Sea and of Brooksby Hardcover – 1 Jan. 1930
by Geoffrey Rawson (Author) from £5 upwards   256 pages Hardcover

other sources suggest Scotland eg the Oxford Name Companion  gives 1. Scots&NIrish..2. Irish. Anglised form of the Gael occupational term  biadhtach a hospitalier
   
Public Record Office for Northern Ireland
PRONI Reference :   D1148/1PRONI Belfast has many items eg
Genealogical notes inc. page giving dates ...
Dates :   c.1800-1953
Description :   Genealogical notes inc. page giving dates of deaths of William John Jamison d. 31st March, 1837 and Mary Jamison d. 21st Jan., 1837. Also pages from family Bible giving births, marriages and deaths of the Keith and Beattie families, Ballymacarrett, County Down.
etc

I am sure the National archives and National library Dublin, Ancestry , Wikitree etc, DNA and other past studies may tell you more.  I am stopping now and wish you well in your quests

ps if he is the right James
Mr James Beattie of 23 Scotch Row d aged 45 in the union infm and is buried in the
City Cemetery  Grave section and number   M1 836 with members of the magee family
buried with magee family see https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/
Residences
1868 Scotch Row described as off Ballymacarrett Old Road 20 small houses unnamed occupants not in 1877 where occupants listed, In 1870 James at No 35

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