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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Meath => Topic started by: dask on Saturday 16 July 11 17:04 BST (UK)
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Hi, I am new to the chat forum. I am wondering does anyone have information on the family name Steers. They were from Kilmessan (outside it actually). I am a direct decendent of Laurence Steers b.1860 son of John Steers (b.1830ish) and Catherine Henry (b.17/03/1831 Dunsany & married 2 Oct 1853 Kilmessan). Laurence married Elizabeth Adams and moved to Dublin. Their daughter Ellen Steers was my grandmother. The family name of Steers runs cold with John. I can find no information about Steers before him. Catherine Henry's father was Laurence Henry born 29/11/1792 at Dunsany. Her mother was Eleanor Maguire. Laurence Henry's parents were Mathew Henry and Catherine Brady.
Any assistance greatly appreciated.
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What denomination are your Steers family ?
The RC parish for the town of Kilmessan is Killeen, and baptism and marriage records go back to about 1740 (with a few gaps).
Historic Church of Ireland baptism records for the parish only go back to the 1880s.
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
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Hi Sahne,
Don't know if this posted but the Steers were all Roman Catholics.
Dask
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Marriages usually took place in the bride's parish - i.e. her current residence, (which may not be her birth parish). Since you can find no earlier details on this Steers family it's possible that they came from somewhere outside the parish..
What sources have you already searched ?
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Have searched the IFHF website and taken what I could from it. Also, 1911/01 Irish census.
Born 03/10/1860 Laurence Steers (f: John Steers of Kilcarty m: Catherine Henry) -m- Elizabeth Adams (f: Michael Adams m: ?) 05/09/1886
Siblings: John (b.26/06/1855), Mathew (b.24/12/1856), James (b.12/07/1864), Catherine (b.15/07/1867)
Have a record of a John Steers born at Dungar Park in Roscrea, Tipperary on 27/04/1817 but he is CoI. There is a John Steers on the 1911 census in Kilmessan living with James. I suspect this is the same John Steers as above (RC) but am less inclined to think he is the one from Tipperary. Though conversion would not be impossible.
Dask
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It's possible that your John Steers was from a nearby parish in Meath where the records dont go back far enough to show his baptism.
Few rural RC parishes have records before 1830, so it was lucky that Catherine's family came from Killeen parish with such old records. Some of the parishes adjacent to Killeen dont go back nearly as far - e.g. Skryne only to 1842, Rathcore and Rathmolyon only go back to 1878..etc
p.s. I think there may be a few additional parishes in the County that RootsIreland/IFHF dont include in their system..
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thanks for that. I am aware that the NLI in Dublin have copies of parish records and someday I plan to go down and do a bit.
Many thanks,
dask
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If you visit the NLI, it might be worth checking the Tithe records also - these date from the 1820s/30s and might show if your families were in the same area at that times.
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Yes, never thought of those. Must add that to the list of look ups. Again, many thanks,
dask
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Marriages usually took place in the bride's parish - i.e. her current residence, (which may not be her birth parish). Since you can find no earlier details on this Steers family it's possible that they came from somewhere outside the parish..
What sources have you already searched ?
Shane
Hi, I would like to contact Dask because John Steers was also my great-grandfather-- he married Catherine Henry and one of their sons was William, my grand-father...
thank you Pearse O'Byrne
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Hi Dask
Im actually from Kilmessan so if there is anything I can do from here I would be more than delighted to help. Looking at the census it seams that they rented property of the local prodestant land lord mrs preston and would you believe it they still live in the same place in Kilmessan maybe if you contacted them looking for some sort of rent book or maybe one of the Steers worked on the Preston land. The address is Swainstown, Dunsany, Co.Meath.
Karen
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Hi Dask
Im actually from Kilmessan so if there is anything I can do from here I would be more than delighted to help. Looking at the census it seams that they rented property of the local prodestant land lord mrs preston and would you believe it they still live in the same place in Kilmessan maybe if you contacted them looking for some sort of rent book or maybe one of the Steers worked on the Preston land. The address is Swainstown, Dunsany, Co.Meath.
Karen
Hello and thank you so much. I'm not sure who this goes to but I wonder if there is a parish office or registrar, (perhaps C of E ?) I could contact?? I live in New England these days but I will be home in the summer in Dublin and would love to pursue the matter, in graveyards, public records etc.,
Thank you again
Pearse Christopher O'Byrne
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Hi Pearse
Killeen would have been the main parish around that time but as fas as i know Kilmessan parish now hold the records of Killeen and if they dont Im sure they can point you in the right direction. There is a grave yard in Killeen but not all headstones are legible but you might be lucky. The number for Kilmessan parish is *. Its the main parish in the area. There is also a church in Kiltale with a grave yard but I dont know how long its been in exsitance as anyone i've been tracing have all been in the are of Killeen/Kilmessan/Dunsany. Also the National Library hold parish records up to 1880. When I tried this I found it very diffcult as I didnt know enough info and it was like looking for a needle in a haystack but you have specific dates it will make things easier. There are still Maguires living here. If there is anything else I can do. You should try writing to Prestons and see if they can tell you exactly where they were living if you have look there I can ask around the village and see if I can get an address if the house is still there or an area where it was. Hope this is of some help to you.
Karen
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Pearse, have just read your message here and yes I am happy for you to contact me. I am not too sure how this operates; moderators do not like people inputting their email accounts into posts I believe. If a moderator is reading this post then I am happy for my email address to be supplied to Pearse Christopher.
Dask
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For your own security personal details like Email address or phone numbers are not allowed in posts, but you can send these by personal message.
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New users require three posts before they have full access to the PM system - so Pearse Christopher will need one more post.
Leinster Moderator
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Karen, yes your offer of assistance is most welcome. In my own research Dunsany figures prominently. While my searches into the Steers side came to a brickwall with John Steers, his wife Catherine is very different. Her maiden name is Henry and I got hold of her birth details which show a Laurence Henry b.1792 Dunsany as her father, her mother was Eleanor Maguire. John and Catherine's son, my great-grandfather, was Laurence (Steers) and my father's name was also Laurence. Laurence Henry's father was Mathew Henry and his mother Caherine Brady.
I would very much like to get in contact with the Preston family as they may, as you say, posses some information. Perhaps you could assist here.
Karen, I am happy to pass you my email address if moving such conversations there proves easier etc. Just let me know.
Dask
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Hi Dask
Im actually from Kilmessan so if there is anything I can do from here I would be more than delighted to help. Looking at the census it seams that they rented property of the local prodestant land lord mrs preston and would you believe it they still live in the same place in Kilmessan maybe if you contacted them looking for some sort of rent book or maybe one of the Steers worked on the Preston land. The address is Swainstown, Dunsany, Co.Meath.
Karen
Hello Karen, I got in touch via Dask and would like to thank you for your information. Dask is sending me some scanned documents tonight about my great-aunt Kate Steers.... I'm so excited... I'm still not sure how to send my email address though, it seems to be complicated...
(it's * if this is the way to do it....)
my very best regards to you in the meantime..
Pearse
my very best regards
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The current head of the Preston family he is called Punch Preston, Swainstown, Dunsany, Co Meath. Hopfully he'll be able to help you.
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Hi Dask, Pearse
I have been tracing my family tree and believe that Laurence Steers is my great grandfather. I am not sure how this site works but would like to make contact with you.
Bernadette
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Hi Bernadette, I am not that sure how this site works myself.
I did manage to get my gmail account to Pearse and will be happy to forward that on. I have a lot of information concerning Laurence Steers and his background and would be happy to pass that on to you.
I have recollections of Steers living near Christchurch when I was growing up in nearby Oliver Bond. My granny (Mary Ellen Steers) sent me there to bring a package of some sort. Might you be related to these?
Anyway, I will check and see how to send my gmail address as it is easier etc for communication.
Dask
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Hi my grandmothers maiden name was Anne Steers, from the old Killeen Rd. She married Joseph Maguire, had a large family and lived on the Kilcarty Rd in Kilmessan. She had one brother Patrick Steers, who lived with my family until his death in 1975. Perhaps there is a connection?? Liz