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Title: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Saturday 16 July 11 10:46 BST (UK)
Hello.

Would anybody have any information on George Bevan b. 1816 who married Margaret Lewis in 1836 in Llangenneth? I am most interested to know who George's siblings are, also his parents as anyone who has already followed the Bevan family will know, it's a minefield! George would have been born in the Rhossili area, poss. listed as Penrice.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: osprey on Saturday 16 July 11 11:13 BST (UK)
is this the family in 1851?

James St, Swansea HO107/2466 folio 236 pg 65
George Bevan head mar 35 hobler (?) on quay b. Pilton
Margaret wife 37 b. Llangennith
Sarah dau 13 b. Llangennith
James son 9 b. Llangennith
Jane dau 5 b. Llangennith
George son 3 b. Swansea
William son 1 b. Swansea

Think George's place of birth reads as Pilton, could be Pitton. Either way, they're both in the parish of Rhossili.
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Saturday 16 July 11 11:28 BST (UK)
Thank you Osprey for a very quick response.  Yes, the family you have listed in 1851 is correct and I agree that George b. 1816 could have been born in Pilton (there are so many!)  Do you have any information on his siblings or parents?  Thanking you in anticipation, Regards, David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: osprey on Saturday 16 July 11 12:15 BST (UK)
sorry, I've been having a look around, but I'm not having any luck. The IGI doesn't cover Rhossili & Llangennith, so you'll need access to the records in another way. The records are held at the archives in Swansea. Although not on the IGI, the BTs have been filmed by the LDS, so you could order a copy to your nearest LDS centre.

http://www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?p=Wales,Wales,Glamorgan,Llangennith&f=1

http://www.londonfhc.org/content/catalogue?c=1&p=Wales,Wales,Glamorgan,Rhosili&f=1   

Do you have a copy of the parish marriage to see if the names of the witnesses help? With the exact date, you could order a copy from Swansea. It's 17/11/1836 if you don't have it. If you do, it would be worth getting some other copies at the same time as the minimum charge of £5 covers 7 copies.
   
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: osprey on Saturday 16 July 11 12:15 BST (UK)
forgot the link for copies  :-[

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=20343
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: osprey on Saturday 16 July 11 13:35 BST (UK)
there are some Rhossili baptisms on FreeReg. This could be a possible?

George bp 22/11/1818 son of Thomas Bevan & Johanna, Thomas being a tailor of Pitton.

http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Saturday 16 July 11 16:49 BST (UK)
Thank you Osprey for the information.  I will get onto the Swansea Records people and get a copy of the marriage certificate as this is the only "true" fact I have to go on.  Regards, David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 17 July 11 09:05 BST (UK)
1841 Census (HO107  1424  13/8  11)
George and Margaret + 2 children are living in Llanmadoc(k)

1851 Census (HO107  2466  236  65)
George born Pilton/Pitton, Margaret born Llangennith

1861 Census (RG09  4102  22  38)
George born Llangennech Margaret born Llanmadoc(k)

The original image = Llangennech but has been transcribed as Llangennith. Suspect enumerator error and should be Llangennith. Llangennith readily misheard as Llangennech and vice versa!
 
1871 Census (RG10  5451  14  22)
Margret, Widow, born Gower

Will be in touch re 1836 marriage entry in parish register.

regards 
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Sunday 17 July 11 16:45 BST (UK)
My Thanks again, Regards, David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 19 July 11 19:15 BST (UK)
Have sent PM about my search for marriage record for George. While searching I did come across the following in Llanmadog/c, George's children?

Bevan, James bapt 23 Feb 1842, father George, labourer, mother Margaret
Bevan, Mary bapt 16 Aug 1844, father George, labourer,mother Margaret
Bevan, Jane, bapt 16 Apr 1846, father George, labourer, mother Margaret

Mary doesn't appear in the 1851 census but there is an burial entry in Llanmadoc for
Bevan, Mary, buried 4 Feb 1848, age 3, address Swansea

regards
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Tuesday 19 July 11 19:44 BST (UK)
Hello, I did not know about Mary, perhaps because of her short life, but the other two I have a note of. This era seems quite clear but the early years!!!!!! Thanks, David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 July 11 19:05 BST (UK)
Rhossili Baptisms - father Thomas, tailor and mother Johanna

William Bevan, 25 December 1816, Pitton
George Bevan, 22 November 1818, Pitton
Thomas Bevan, 17 June 1821, Pitton
Matilda Bevan, 27 July 1823, Pitton

Still to scan/forward Parish marriage record for George Bevan and Margaret Lewis - will be in touch

regards
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 20 July 11 19:37 BST (UK)
Image of marriage record sent

regards
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: Vasquez109 on Friday 20 July 12 09:36 BST (UK)
I think this is what you're looking for:

St. Mary the Virgin, Rhossili baptisms 1641-1978
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George   son of   William & Mary Bevan   of Hill End      26/01/1817   By D Davies (Curate)

Anything else you need from Rhossili then let me know.

Cheers.
David.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: Vasquez109 on Friday 20 July 12 21:50 BST (UK)
Does anyone know why everything has gone so wide? Have I broken something?
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: silver.frame on Tuesday 02 August 16 08:41 BST (UK)
Hello, Its been a while/years since I have done any research but a new member sent me a question aboutthe Sims family and this has now given me a bit of a push, I hope.

The Bevans seem to me the hardest family to trace, my side anyway. My  George I believe was born.1816 and married Margaret Lewis.

His parents (?) were Thomas and Johanna Jenkins. Thomas parents being David 1767 and Margaret Beynon.

Can anyone tell me that I am correct, please?

Regards,

David
Title: Re: George Bevan b.1816
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 02 August 16 10:35 BST (UK)
This takes me back!!